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Double Bass GK150S plus SWR Goliath Jr?

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fsanfili

Feb 5, 2004
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#1
I'm playing upright in an Americana band with a couple of electric guitar players, and my GK150 isn't cutting through very well. I'm considering getting a 2x10 cabinet for my electric rig anyway, and was wondering if I might be able to kill two birds with one stone. So I'm thinking about getting the SWR Goliath Junior, which is a 350W, 8ohm cabinet with 2 10s and a tweeter.

Does anyone have a similar set-up? Any idea if this will help out? It's about a $500 investment....
 
#3
I'm in the same situation as fsanfili -- GK 150 works fine for me except in a 20-piece big band, so this thread is useful for me too. I'm electronically challenged, so I'll add a follow-up question:

if you add the additional speaker cabinet, you've obviously got more speakers, but isn't it still just the same 150 watts from the GK amp -- so why would it be louder? Wouldn't it just be 150 watts divided among four speakers instead of just one speaker? I get the part about more speakers moving more air, but there isn't really any more juice there, right? Or is there?
 
#10
Right. I went through the huge rack and giant cab phase. Now that I'm older (and maybe wiser) I don't want to have to lug a bunch of gear around. I'm using and AI Contra for all of my jazz gigs, but would like to have one of the GKs for some rockier settings. I haven't use my bigger rig for quite a while now. (GK 700RB and one or two Avatar CB112s)
 
#11
Well, I went ahead and sprung for the SWR Goliath III Jr. In my (wood-floored, acoustically lovely) living room, it immediately made a HUGE improvement in my sound. I've only had one rehearsal with it, in a VERY dead studio, and my experience there was that my highs were still getting eaten up when there's a full band playing. I have a rehearsal in a different place tomorrow night, and I'll let you know how it performs there.

The Golliath JR also adds a lot to my electric setup, which was a Hartke 3500 head going into a 350 W 1 15 Cabinet. So it's been a worthwhile investment, I think. Note that the Goliath singlehandedly negates the biggest advantage of the compact GK 150 -- the Goliath is 55 lbs.! I'm now looking around for a good dolly....

Oh, also at the rehearsal, I tried using a compressor (EBS MultiComp) on the upright for the first time, and that helped me cut through quite a bit. I wouldn't use a compressor on a jazz gig, but in a rock context, it doesn't sound out of place at all.
 
#12
greitzer said:
Right, that's the amp I have. Thanks for the explanation. I may give this a try. I'm assuming the 150 watts would be an improvemetn (volume=wise) over the 100 watts with just the internal speaker.
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The wattage won't make the difference, it will be the increased speaker area. I recall a discussion a few years back in which someone explained that the ear can only distinguish and increase in volume of about 3 dB and you need to double the wattage of your output to get that difference. [I know I am garbling this, but in essence, its the sad fact]. The increased speaker area will spread your sound around more and make it more audible, but the volume won't increase much. :hmm:
 

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