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Go big or go home

Sick!

I never really had a setup before my current - I played out of an Ampeg V6b with a Peavey 2x10 1x18 cab not sure the model. It sounded pretty good - but never perfect. Then I used an Ampeg Micro-VR which again, was not ideal. I have played on 100s of different setups at jams - none ever seemed right.

Then I played the Stu-Amp and it solidified the whole mix of our bands sound.
 
Sick!

I never really had a setup before my current - I played out of an Ampeg V6b with a Peavey 2x10 1x18 cab not sure the model. It sounded pretty good - but never perfect. Then I used an Ampeg Micro-VR which again, was not ideal. I have played on 100s of different setups at jams - none ever seemed right.

Then I played the Stu-Amp and it solidified the whole mix of our bands sound.
Exactly, I don't think a lot of people realize how important the bass rig is to a bands live sound. Same goes for live drums... all snares are not created equal - and I could go on and on about bass drums.
 
I love big amps too, I need to hear it and feel it! I can't get that from an IEM or stage monitor.

I run big power with an excellent preamp and 2-810'e cabs. I use very little EQ (mostly some cut if needed) so I can send a post D.I. to FOH and haven't had problems. This way I know the tone thru the P.A. isn't much different than what I hear.

It's always tough for a Bass player in rock/metal bands to cut thru with loud drummers and guitars. My amp cuts through just fine on stages or rehearsal rooms!
 
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It's funny, but most of your reasons for why you think a big rig sounds great are exactly the reasons why I think they cause problems. Sorry but in my experience, bass bouncing around haphazardly tends to create a boomy, nasty mess, and it is not desirable.

When I was still touring I had my choice of Eden D210XLT and D410XLT. I had a stereo amp and could run both if I wanted, but most of the time I ran with just the 210. The 410 could produce more SPL, but I usually didn't need the extra volume and I didn't think it sounded any better.

For context, my amp serves as my personal monitor, and the PA deliver the bass to the audience and also distributes bass to other musicians on stage via their monitors. I setup my amp so I can run it at the lowest possible level and still hear myself clearly.

If I had to do a gig where my rig was expected to push the room, I would definitely have used both cabs, and I would setup and run my rig in a totally different manner.
 
In my opinion, the answer to this question is what separates the boys from the men with regards to your sound. Somewhere along the way, the lure of minimalist setups has fooled guitarist and bassists into giving up their beloved stage possessions… namely their amplifiers. In some cases, giving them up totally, and in others trading them for stage monitor versions of their amplifiers. This was done under the thought that ‘it sounds just as good out front’. Well guess what? No, no it doesn’t.

I thought there was a ban on discussing religious topics here? ;)
 
My big rig is in my avatar, haven't used two cabs for at least several years though.


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... This was done under the thought that ‘it sounds just as good out front’. Well guess what? No, no it doesn't. ...

Oh I dunno. I used to play out with one, two, or three identical Trace AH400SMX+410+118 stacks. They sound amazing to me. We had a good sound guy. I'd occasionally get a complement on my tone from another musician.

Everybody switched to DI with a single central mixer with two 215 mains and two 118 subs crossed over between 2 PA's with a good sound guy. Venue owners and audience members everywhere we play now RAVE about the band's sound.

In the end, it's about the band's sound and not what *I* think sounds good. And if I can save my back in the process of making that happen, then win-win. So I'm not going back.
 
Nice photos of our bass heroes and their big rigs. I'd be more impressed if we had photos of them pulling those fridges out of their car and schlepping them into a bar...

Class D is saving my back.
After lugging in a couple of PA towers, bass bins and a half dozen storage totes what’s a couple more 410’s? :-)
 
After lugging in a couple of PA towers, bass bins and a half dozen storage totes what’s a couple more 410’s? :)


:roflmao: I bought a quad of Uber Quads just for the fun of it, and never expect to gig with them (currently retired). By the time I stack the fourth, I am all tuckered out. You've probably seen this horrible photo before, but here it is again:
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Exactly, I don't think a lot of people realize how important the bass rig is to a bands live sound. Same goes for live drums... all snares are not created equal - and I could go on and on about bass drums.

100% - and not just live sound, but in the studio as well - capturing real sound sources nets 100% unique sounding recording.

Not that there isn't a place for Direct signal and amp sims, etc. - I use this stuff all the time, usually when creating demos - or I might use it for like 10% of the guitar overdubs on a live track if it is a really unique tone.
 
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