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Good band did everything wrong

I went to see a band play tonight. Spent good money on front row seats.

They did everything wrong. They came out dressed up in tuxedo vests like a bunch of waiters. The bass player, Tony, had a music stand in front of him. The guitarist, Robert, had a headstock tuner and just sat and played guitar all night with headphones on. They had too many drummers. And the worst of it was that nothing they played was exactly like the record.

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Might have also been the best show I ever saw in my life.

As a bonus, I got to see another great band but I didn't get any pictures of them. I might tell you about that in a later post.

(that's all sarcasm by the way-- though all true)
I had tickets to see them in July. A bucket list concert.
The venue cancelled the show two night before downbeat.:rollno:

Glad you saw Tony ( I mean them)!
 
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I had tickets to see them in July. A bucket list concert.
The venue cancelled the show two night before downbeat.:rollno:

Glad you saw Tony ( I mean them)!
I'm sorry that it got cancelled. We had similar issues with a show we had bought tickets for just before the pandemic hit. Once again, front row seats, which isn't something we usually splurge for but, like you, we're doing bucket list things, and this one was worth it. But the can has been kicked down the road twice now, with a new date in 2022. I'm hoping Donald Fagen and Steve Winwood manage to hang on long enough.
 
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I'm really pleased to see RF and KC getting so much love here. Great thread.

RF has traveled such an utterly unique and amazing path through our musical timeline. An amazing and utterly unique talent; I truly believe the term "genius" is appropriate in his case. Very special, and we have been fortunate to have him.

I haven't really followed him since the Bruford / Wetton era, being more absorbed in other sectors. But, I will just point out that the list of legacy musicians who have served in his various lineups forms a virtual who's who of British Pop musicians. I believe that there may be some parallels to Miles Davis, in terms of role and importance in the art form. Fripp truly should be knighted; though I have no doubt there would be some existential twist to such an event.

Godspeed KC.
 
Was that really Mike Kineally, stage left of the Zappa band? He was the one guitarist out of all of them who did what I considered inspired playing, but I didn't recognize him - saw him once before, 20-odd years ago when he had a lot more hair and a bit less beard.

Happy to hear you say that because I, too, did not recognize him, and I'm embarrassed to say that I even did a show opening for Beer for Dolphins back in the 90's, so I have seen him in person.

Because he texted me about this photo that was briefly my avatar I will gratuitously and for no other reason share this screenshot from that show for @GretschWretch:

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But the Keneally I remembered from 25 years ago more resembled the other guitar player that was there and I was a little confused.
 
Must have been a great experience and I've always liked krimson but I would have paid just see Scott Thunes. Funny I'm not really a Zappa or Keneally fan but yeah Thunes is a force of nature...

Neither Fripp nor Thunes have ever or will ever come to Oz. The Frippless double trio did however and that was fantastic. I was busking with my stick that night (at least trying to haha) then went to the show. The sound guys let me leave it under the stage for safe keeping - that instrument and I got a MASTERCLASS that night!!
 
I knew some people wouldn't get the joke so I added that little thing at the end about it being sarcasm. It just struck me as funny while I was watching them how many TB faux pas I was seeing on that stage.
Apple's to oranges.
I played a picnic/bbq last weekend where shorts, sandals, and a Hawaiian shirt were perfectly acceptable.
My next gig requires a tuxedo or black suit.
 
Gatekeeping is hella strong on TB. People enjoy making up rules and "must haves" for... reasons? I guess. But, it's called TALKbass for a reason ;)

I'm totally envious about the show you got to experience! Bet you had an incredible time, even if you had to sit through all that riff-raff.
Not just TB but everywhere. People have a desperate need to be on the righteous path. Sport, politics, religion, music or whatever. The need to be right is powerful. It also provides an "other" over whom you can feel superior. Surrender to the reality that we are just tiny organisms bumbling about on a cosmic speck is a hard idea to grasp for some but it's quite liberating.
 
I went to see a band play tonight. Spent good money on front row seats.

They did everything wrong. They came out dressed up in tuxedo vests like a bunch of waiters. The bass player, Tony, had a music stand in front of him. The guitarist, Robert, had a headstock tuner and just sat and played guitar all night with headphones on. They had too many drummers. And the worst of it was that nothing they played was exactly like the record.

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Might have also been the best show I ever saw in my life.

As a bonus, I got to see another great band but I didn't get any pictures of them. I might tell you about that in a later post.

(that's all sarcasm by the way-- though all true)
I saw this exact KC lineup two years ago when they came to Radio City Music Hall and they were jaw-droppingly AMAZING. The energy, the drumming and Tony Levin had an INSANE EUB solo on "Moonchild." I'm jealous of you, I want to see them again. :cautious:
 
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Here it is from a few years back. Not much different from what they did last night.


Crimso trivia: Before "Indiscipline" was a King Crimson song, it was part of the repertoire of Bill Bruford's band, during the "Gradually Going Tornado" period, when Jeff Berlin was in it, about 2 years before Discipline was recorded. Saw them play it in Berkeley. Don't know if it had a title. The band just started vamping on the baaap.....baaap......badaaap....... and Bruford did the most magnifcent accelerando/deccelerando and crescendo/decreschendo drum dance around the groove, always landing perfectly in sync with the band. No spoken word, and no "bridge" that I can recall. For all of Berlin's flamboyance on other tunes, it was my favorite piece of the whole show.
 
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The thing that struck me about Scott's playing was how raw and physical he is, but also how precise and with a virtuosity I seldom hear. He seems to approach things with the same attitude you imagine Frank probably had, which is to say 100% fused with the music that's coming out of his instrument.

Reading some of the stuff recommended about him today I'm struck that this is maybe why the other guys on that tour back in the day had a hard time with him. He was playing what he felt... doing what he felt... with the chops to play whatever he felt, and the ear to make it right, and it didn't conform to their idea of what a bassist should do. But I'm guessing Frank was the one person who got it.
Beautifully put
 
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The thing that struck me about Scott's playing was how raw and physical he is, but also how precise and with a virtuosity I seldom hear. He seems to approach things with the same attitude you imagine Frank probably had, which is to say 100% fused with the music that's coming out of his instrument.

Reading some of the stuff recommended about him today I'm struck that this is maybe why the other guys on that tour back in the day had a hard time with him. He was playing what he felt... doing what he felt... with the chops to play whatever he felt, and the ear to make it right, and it didn't conform to their idea of what a bassist should do. But I'm guessing Frank was the one person who got it.
The show was awesome! And I totally agree, Scott impressed the hell out of me. Great playing, great presence/attitude, and great sound. Tony Levin is one of my favorite players, but I am now a newly minted Scott Thunes fan.
 
I've seen various incarnations of KC numerous times over the decades, and, having sat literally at Robert Fripp's feet for one of them (so close, in fact, that I could have tied his shoe had he asked), I'm of the opinion that the best way to see the more recent versions of the band is at some moderate distance—you can see the interplay between the three (or, back in the day, two) drummers, which is a key part of the musical chemistry of the ensemble overall.

The last concert that I saw before lockdown was King Crimson at the Ryman Auditorium here in Nashville back in November 2019. The first concert that I saw after the lockdown was King Crimson last week, again at the Ryman. Both times I sat in the balcony, and both times Tony Levin took my picture.

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Happy to hear you say that because I, too, did not recognize him, and I'm embarrassed to say that I even did a show opening for Beer for Dolphins back in the 90's, so I have seen him in person.

Because he texted me about this photo that was briefly my avatar I will gratuitously and for no other reason share this screenshot from that show for @GretschWretch:

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But the Keneally I remembered from 25 years ago more resembled the other guitar player that was there and I was a little confused.

Gratuitous or no, you have bestowed upon me a grace unlooked for, milady, for which I respond to you with a doff of the hat and a deep bow.
 
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