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Good Pro Tools setup on the cheap

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Or you could waste your money and time and get a sadie or pyramix rig! LOL!


not bad suggestions, However The OP said he wanted a pro Tools setup on the cheap and the m audio hardware only lets you run M-powered Pro Tools software. Not sure what the difference is in M-powered versus LE because i've never used the m-powered however i believe its a stripped down version of PT LE.
and secondly as nice as the RME pre's are those octamic's are pretty pricey.

A used 002 rack with Black lion audio upgrade is still better quality IME and cheaper than other rigs, not to mention it is firewire as well. Plus theres no need for a interface and separate mic pre's because the 002R is all those things in one.
 
Really? ProTools is the standard, sorry man. From NY to Nashville to LA, ProTools is what gets used 90% of the time by professional studios & countless project studios as well. No serious self-respecting studio is using Cubase anymore. You still occasionally see Digital Performer used for tracking, but it's rare.

Standard because it's what they "grew up using", what they were taught to use.
 
Standard because it's what they "grew up using", what they were taught to use.

Honestly, how could I possibly know every individuals history with ProTools?

Bottom line is that ProTools is the standard, probably having to do with it being the first commercially successful DAW. Plus, it continues to be the industry leader in innovation and plug-in compatability.

Log some time in professional studios & talk to the engineers. You'll understand why ProTools is so ubiquitous quickly enough.
 
Honestly, how could I possibly know every individuals history with ProTools?

Bottom line is that ProTools is the standard, probably having to do with it being the first commercially successful DAW. Plus, it continues to be the industry leader in innovation and plug-in compatability.

Log some time in professional studios & talk to the engineers. You'll understand why ProTools is so ubiquitous quickly enough.

Yeah, there are plenty of reasons why pro tools may not be the ideal choice for a given user but suggesting that the top engineers and producers of the world use protools because 'its what they were taught to use' is a little insulting to them!

Especially now as the up and coming younger engineers grew up with all the different software around and many of them still choose to use tools.

I spent the longest time using Cubase, to be honest I still probably know it better than Logic and Tools even after not having used it for years! But I choose to use Logic/Tools for their merits as a programs, not because I don't know any better.

Work with some REAL top engineers and you'll see just how exacting and in depth they are about every aspect of the sound and the process, and just how d**n good they are! If they are using Protools you can guarantee its for a good reason, and we should humbly go 'ok' and try and work out why that is, to learn why they prefer it! Even if we have our own differing preferences.

Ditto logic of course, I'm seeing more and more guys come to the studio and use logic these days.

Sorry, I get a bee in my bonnet about sweeping statements against gear! You see people saying things like 'I hate 57's' and I always think 'an incredibly talented engineer used 57's to record a record that you think sounds incredible, be a bit humble!'
 
A colleague here in Nash' just got one of those Black Lion upgrades on his DigiRack. It really is a big improvement, not only in the pre's, but I believe the converters are replaced as well!

Depending on the upgrade (they have a few versions) they do a bunch of stuff, including the power supply, headphone amp, clock and more.

I had one of their earlier mods done to my 002R which included the input/output stages and clock. It definitely made a noticeable improvement in the sound/detail/imaging. Sure, there's prob still better stuff out there (though I've read good things about their signature mod too), but it does a very good job for what it is (and the price).
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