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Grrr! Church Just Bought a Drum Shield

jaywa

jaywa

May 5, 2008
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Iowa City, IA
#1
So last night at practice my worship leader was all excited because we're getting a plexiglass "bug screen" to put around our drum kit.

Am I the only one who despises those things? #1 they're cheezy looking as heck (especially after they get smudged and dinged a few times). #2 they don't make that much difference except to make your drummer deaf faster. #3 they cut off contact between me and my drummer.

What I really can't figure out is, in our particular case, there is absolutely no need for it. We have a 1,200 seat room that's been designed for amplified "modern" music, a huge stage, and we don't have any drummers who hit hard (in fact, it's the opposite problem).

I'm just a volunteer schmoe there so it's not anything I'm gonna challenge my WL on but it just seems to me like a big waste of money.

Concurring (and dissenting) opinions welcome...
 
#3
I forgot to say, all of our instrumentalists are on IEMs. So that blocks out a lot of the ambient noise from a stage volume perspective.

I know we've recently been getting some complaints about volume (NOT from our lead pastor, who has been telling the tech crew to turn things up), so I suspect this may be a psychological appeasement thing to those people more than anything. I.e., if we put up a sneeze guard it will at least look like we're trying and maybe those people won't think things are so loud if the see the drums being "covered up".
 
#4
I'm with you. I can understand the need for them in smaller rooms or areas with acoustic issues, but I disagree with blanket use of them. I love that our main stage at church refuses to use one, but our multi-purpose room where student ministries and other events happen uses one which I hate. Even with a complete IEM setup there's something disconnecting about it.

I played at a different church last weekend and found this weird too: No drum shield, but had an amp room off stage where all the guitar amps went.
 
#12
sb69coupe said:
They seriously reduce the amount of bleed into vocal mics. Given the size of your room, I assume there are multiple vocalists in the band? All those open mics can pick up a lot of drum bleed, and this would help clean up the overall FOH sound.
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We never have more than 4 vocal mics on a given Sunday (including the WL), and the singers stand a good 15-20 feet in front of the backline (like I said, it's a big stage). On a tight stage I could see drum bleed into the vox mics being a big deal but pretty sure that's not happening here.
 
#15
My church started with a shield then put a roof on it. Finally they build a back wall with a door. Apparently this was an attempt to clean up the sound by keeping the drums out of the vocal mics. I played drums in that chicken coop for several years. One day they put lights on it; I felt like a rotisserie chicken in there. When the new music leader began insisting that we play every song to a click track (headphones for me) and I develped arthitis in my thumb joints, I gave my notice. I attended another church for a while, enjoyed watching their drummer play his Roland V-drums. One Sunday I went and they had taken away the V-drums; he was in a plexiglass drum booth on acoustic drums. I didn't go back, too many bad memories.
 
#17
drummike said:
My church started with a shield then put a roof on it. Finally they build a back wall with a door. Apparently this was an attempt to clean up the sound by keeping the drums out of the vocal mics. I played drums in that chicken coop for several years. One day they put lights on it; I felt like a rotisserie chicken in there. When the new music leader began insisting that we play every song to a click track (headphones for me) and I develped arthitis in my thumb joints, I gave my notice. I attended another church for a while, enjoyed watching their drummer play his Roland V-drums. One Sunday I went and they had taken away the V-drums; he was in a plexiglass drum booth on acoustic drums. I didn't go back, too many bad memories.
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What did any of that have to do with you developing arthritis? Just curious.

We have acoustic drums in a cage with a top and the drummer plays to a click and she's more than happy to do it. To each their own I suppose.
 
#18
MoeGJBeener said:
drum shields are everybody's friend. the sound guy can control the drummers volume and in return, make the overall mix quieter/better. without a shield, everything revolves around the drummer level wise.
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+1. The best my band has ever sounded has been at a Church with a drum shield, and a sweet sound system. It was a super tight mix, and it wasn't quiet at all, it was just tight and balanced. If you have a good sound guy, and a good sound system (admittedly most churches are lacking in one or both areas), then the drum shield is great!
 
#19
I hate that we have a shield. Totally agree that WE need it (lotsa choir mics, loud drummer, 'difficult' acoustics, loud blackgospel groovyness), but then we constantly have the drums under-mic'd, his IEM's are constantly crapped, and our worship leader just REFUSES a setlist , so we have to pantomime song titles through the smudged glass.
 

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