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Guild B402-A Active basses—What are they like?

Hey,
I was really into collecting Guild basses for a while in the late 90's, early 2000's, and have both a 301 & 302, and had a 402. The sound of the 301 and 302 is sort of a beefy version of a Fender J, with the wider pickups and middle and neck set up rather than middle and bridge of a J. Also, having a tone control on each pickup on the 302 is pretty cool, too. The 402 stood out as it had an active preamp.

I am pretty sure the has 402 had the same pickups as the 302, and mine had the same controls as in the pictures but I don't remember what each did. Mine was actually a 402A, the "A" being for Ash body rather than the standard mahogany. Mine was all ash without a top wood. Also, all of the 301's, 302's and 402's has a set neck, as did the earlier Guild basses, but unlike the earlier Guild basses, these were all 34" scale, where as 60's and early 70's Guild basses were 30 1/2" scale. I may be wrong, but I don't think there was a 401 model. The models were, if I recall, single pickup, double pickup and double pickup with active preamp, though the 402 came out near the end of the production of these instruments.

I am pretty sure these were late 70's - mid 80's basses as they preceded the Pilot series which came out while Jaco was alive. That said, active electronics were pretty new at the time, in fact the Guild 402 may have been the first USA production bass with an active preamp. Following up on the 402, every Pilot that I have seen came stock with EMG active pickups, most having the simple V-V-T setup, but the upper end Pilots (900 series, if I recall correctly) also had an EMG preamp, but those are pretty rare.

If you can find a copy of the book "Guitar Stories" my 301 and 302 are both pictured in the chapter on Guild guitars.
 
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Here's my fretless :
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This thread may have solved a mystery - when I was in elementary school in the '80s, I saw the stage band from the junior high school perform and the bassist was playing a two-tone, two pickup Guild. One of the colors was mahogany reddish, I thought the other color was gray but it may have been the cream in the pix here. Thanks!

I love all the 301s/302s and some of the Pilots I've played (unfortunately my least favorite was the blue one I had with EMGs). I much preferred a friend's black one with DiMarzios. I used to have a mahogany Guild S-60D geetar with the exact same body shape as the 301/302, I gave it to a friend who'd fallen on hard times to sell and it got him a couple months rent.
 
I've got a 302 and a 402-A. I love them both. They both have a similar tone but the 402-A obviously gives you more bass/treble options and creates a big tonal difference even flat, when the actives are engaged. It has a Spector like airy'ness about the top end and the Bottom is a very usable and musical frq centre, not like a lot of modern circuits that just seem to add rumble and boom rather than EQ notes.
 

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Those old Guilds are classics. If I ever get another one it'd be like this SB-202 model below. I'd expect the same great sound and nice USA build as on an old B-302 I once had, but its poor ergos drove it from me. Apparently Guild figured out how to deliver the same B- goodness, but in a form factor with broader appeal. Not that it's worth the $2K the seller is asking, but still....wouldn't mind having one. :woot:

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So I happened upon some pictures of the B402 online and was a little intrigued by its looks.

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But, trying to find any videos of them on YouTube yielded no results.

Has anyone here got one, and could maybe describe a little about its ergonomics and sound? I'm interested in what those P90-esque pickups and its active electronics sound like.

Is it a heavy bass? I've only ever seen hollow-body Guilds.
I have one! I inherited it from my father-in-law, who played double bass in jazz and dance bands in the 1940s to 70s in the north east of England. Latterly he Went Electric, and the B402 was his choice! It's got a lovely range of tones. I've never changed the strings, sounds good to me.
 
What do you think the market would bare for a 1980 B-402A in great shape? It looks like the one the OP posted in this thread - Ashe with a translucent purple-ish top. I need to sell some basses and I was wanting $1500 for this one. Does that sound fair?
What have they been actually selling for on the usual sites.

We also require good quality photos to make an assessment.
 
What have they been actually selling for on the usual sites.

We also require good quality photos to make an assessment.
Yeah, it's not easy to find what others are selling for since these are so unique. I kinda would like to sell it locally (Upstate South Carolina) since I don't like sending a bass thru a courier. I'll have to dig it out to take pics but it's in great shape with no scratches, dings, etc. Just trying to get a feel for a price.
 
Guilds are tough basses to sell - except preserved vintage Starifres - and the market is not seller friendly at the moment IMO.

Unless you find someone who's looking exactly for what you have, the chances are that you'll be sitting on it for a while unless you lower the price dramatically.

BTW, I love Guild instruments and own several. They are just a PITA to get rid of with very few exceptions. The most underrated American brand, IMO.

Good luck, @eruby
 
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Hey,
I was really into collecting Guild basses for a while in the late 90's, early 2000's, and have both a 301 & 302, and had a 402. The sound of the 301 and 302 is sort of a beefy version of a Fender J, with the wider pickups and middle and neck set up rather than middle and bridge of a J. Also, having a tone control on each pickup on the 302 is pretty cool, too. The 402 stood out as it had an active preamp.

I am pretty sure the has 402 had the same pickups as the 302, and mine had the same controls as in the pictures but I don't remember what each did. Mine was actually a 402A, the "A" being for Ash body rather than the standard mahogany. Mine was all ash without a top wood. Also, all of the 301's, 302's and 402's has a set neck, as did the earlier Guild basses, but unlike the earlier Guild basses, these were all 34" scale, where as 60's and early 70's Guild basses were 30 1/2" scale. I may be wrong, but I don't think there was a 401 model. The models were, if I recall, single pickup, double pickup and double pickup with active preamp, though the 402 came out near the end of the production of these instruments.

I am pretty sure these were late 70's - mid 80's basses as they preceded the Pilot series which came out while Jaco was alive. That said, active electronics were pretty new at the time, in fact the Guild 402 may have been the first USA production bass with an active preamp. Following up on the 402, every Pilot that I have seen came stock with EMG active pickups, most having the simple V-V-T setup, but the upper end Pilots (900 series, if I recall correctly) also had an EMG preamp, but those are pretty rare.

If you can find a copy of the book "Guitar Stories" my 301 and 302 are both pictured in the chapter on Guild guitars.
 
The model is S300A-D. Don't know much about the guitar other than it's a stock model as is the bass. I've been the sole owner of the bass and have never done any mods - it just sounds too good. I've used the bass almost exclusively since 1981 when I bought it. I have maintained a gig schedule of 100-120 dates a year for at least 30 yrs. I've cut back to about 20 gigs a year, but my bass gets played nearly everyday in my studio.
 

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