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Harley Benton SolidBass 410T anyone?

gg69

gg69

May 17, 2005
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Hi! I am building a bass rig that's loud and affordable and so far I got:

- Behringer Ultrabass BX2000H head, featuring two 1000-watt outputs at 8 ohm, which we all know it's a lie but it's very loud nonetheless;
- Warwick WCA 115 Pro cab, 1x15 listed as "300W (maximum 400W)".

Now I just need a 4x10, and came across the Harley Benton SolidBass 410T, listed as featuring 4x10" speakers plus a 3" tweeter and 450 watts RMS. My only gripe would be the low end of the 60 - 20,000 Hz frequency range, which doesn't go as low as other cabs. It is the only 410 in the 200-euro range that delivers enough wattage and I (at first) don't wanna go up to the 300 euro range.

What do you think? Anyone heard of the cab? Frequency range too shallow to be usable? Does the 115 make up for the low end? Should I just pay more for a 410 with more low end?

I play mostly rock/metal with overdrive/distortion in B and will have to compete against a drummer and two other guitarists who like to play loud.
 
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There aren't any good reasons to mix a 115 with a 410, and a few good reasons not to.
Speaker diameter doesn't dictate frequency response. The notion that you need a 115 for lows is poppycock.
Going with 2 x 115 or 2 x 410 would realize a more consistent distribution of power to the speakers and would reduce the likely affect of combing, etc. if you use mismatched cabinets.
There are very few reviews on the HB 410 but they indicate a lack of low end. If that's important to you save up for a better cabinet.
 
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abarson said:
There aren't any good reasons to mix a 115 with a 410, and a few good reasons not to.
Speaker diameter doesn't dictate frequency response. The notion that you need a 115 for lows is poppycock.
Going with 2 x 115 or 2 x 410 would realize a more consistent distribution of power to the speakers and would reduce the likely affect of combing, etc. if you use mismatched cabinets.
There are very few reviews on the HB 410 but they indicate a lack of low end. If that's important to you save up for a better cabinet.
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Thanks for the input. I was actually considering staying with just the 115 for a while to see how it feels, and maybe adding another 115, as you indicated. I never got along with 10's to be honest, even the 810's I played live, but on the other hand never had much time to fiddle with them.
But do you think it would be a serious mismatch even if the 115 and the 410 are listed at around the same wattage RMS (in this case, "300 (max. 400)" and 350, respectively)?
Bigger speakers usually respond more slowly to playing dynamics.
 
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The Bergantino NV115 and Mesa Subway 115 disprove the notion that bigger speakers are slow. They have plenty of punch and snap, thanks to modern technology and good design. Of course they're more expensive than a Warwick.

Let's say your Behringer is feeding a pair of 8 ohms cabinets, a 115 and a 410, and for the sake of easy math is providing 400 watts RMS to each. The 15" speaker get the full 400 watts, while each 10" speaker gets 100 watts. There's a good chance you will blow the 15" first.

But wattage isn't the only aspect. If the cabinets aren't designed to play together (like the Subway series is) you can experience all sorts of sonic artifacts that won't be pleasant.
 
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If you like the 15, but want full wattage from the head, I’d just get another identical 15. If you want to mix 10s and 15s to get more upper register my experience is a 210 balances much better. Plenty of people have been successful with a 410 and 115 but there are a lot of variables that can trip you up in doing so
 
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It’s also worth noting that to my ear at least a lot of the lower end 10” cabs can have a weird honky tone that’s hard to eq around depending on the range of the eq in your amp. It had to go wrong with a decent 15 as long as you don’t find it too dark for your playing style
 
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