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Double Bass Heads Up: QSC K-10 $589.00 shipped

#63
Jason Sypher said:
I never play parties where I am background music and I've never had a speaker right up next to my head so it's hard to say if this has happened before. We were in a tight little corner and I was flanked by the other guys amps, one keyboard, one guitar and I wasn't hearing too much of that in my speaker. I was surprised that the mic was picking all that up because the crowd was about 15 feet away.
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If you are used to playing in venues where the audience is actually silent, then I can imagine that you never experienced hearing the noise of the audience in your cab. Actually, this phenomenon is caused by the fact that the front of your bass acts as a huge sonic reflection area. In other words: the noise the audience makes bounces off of the front of your bass, and subsequently picked up and amplified by the mic. Therefore, no matter how directional your mic is, this sonic effect will always be there if you play for an audience that is not silent. As a player that mostly plays in noisy bars and parties, I am quite familiar with this phenomenon...

Peace,
Vincent
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#64
Still very happy with DPA4099/Headway/K10 on a pole. I played in a small venue last night with boomy acoustics. I bled a little bit of Underwood in to the second channel of the Headway and also tried it via a Fishman pre into the K10 channel B. That was a lot more versatile but I don't want yet another item of kit in the setup. Compliments from band and def my rig of choice (right now). Only prob, the kettle lead went down (fuse?), first such failure in (a lot of) years.

BTW, I carry the K10 in a wheeled luggage case with a telescopic handle, the type you see people dragging around at airports. It protects the controls on the back of the cab and makes load-in a lot easier.
 
#65
adbass said:
Let us know how it goes Monte
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Whew! That was FUN!!!

I was looking forward to playing with Chris Parker and Chad Anderson, as it's always a treat for me, but Chris was sly and neglected to inform us that his brother-in-law was in from NY and would be splitting time with him on piano.....James Hurt (Russell Gunn, Ron Blake, Abraham Burton, Abby Lincoln).

When word got out, the place was packed. Earnestine & Hazel's is a very long narrow room, with the bandstand up front by the window...pretty boomy in general.

As noisy as it was, I was pretty happy with the sound, and I thought the rig performed great considering where I was.

Logistically, I was way closer to the speaker and to the drummer than I would like....on his hi hat side where I could touch it if I wanted, with the QSC in the corner going about 2' past my ear. However, when a drummer sat in Chad said he could hear my bass cleanly all the way at the back of the room when he went to the end of the bar to order food. I used quite a bit of the notch filter to take care of the boom, but it still sounded pretty natural....better than any pickup. A little bleed during drum solos, but nothing terrible when I listened back to Chad's iPhone recording from the audience.

I think this rig is a winner
 
#66
glad it worked out Monte.

Just curious, what frequency band(s) did you filter out?

My thoughts so far: if you want the sound of a mic don't mind the extra set up, carrying the mic and boom stand and everything around then this is definitely the solution. For guys that prefer the plug and play, then there are some great little combo amps out there.

By the way, sounds like a killer band and thanks for the review.
 
#72
engedi1 said:
question: Why this particular powered PA speaker and not others like some of the Mackies or yahamas that may be cheaper? Is the qsc designed to be uber transparent?
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I'm not really sure.

I heard a guy in the subway playing some Jamie Aebersold recordings through his phone into one, and he was soloing on flute over it. It sounded awesome. I could tell it would sound great for mic'd upright.

I asked what he was using and it was a QSC K8.

That's how I found out about em. I was sold on the weight, size, the two channels and all the inputs and especially the integrated power amp with built in DSP.

I really didn't investigate other models or brands. I only speak for the K10: it's awesome.
 
#73
adbass said:
I'm not really sure.

I heard a guy in the subway playing some Jamie Aebersold recordings through his phone into one, and he was soloing on flute over it. It sounded awesome. I could tell it would sound great for mic'd upright.

I asked what he was using and it was a QSC K8.

That's how I found out about em. I was sold on the weight, size, the two channels and all the inputs and especially the integrated power amp with built in DSP.

I really didn't investigate other models or brands. I only speak for the K10: it's awesome.
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Thanks. This thread has really opened my eyes to the potential of using a powered PA speaker on a pole next to your ear. I always hated trying to play amplified upright since through most amps it just sounds bad to me, and I could never really hear myself and therefor intonation suffers!
This seems like a a great way to be heard, hear yourself, and have a lightweight rig. Very intrigued! I
 
#75
engedi1 said:
Thanks. This thread has really opened my eyes to the potential of using a powered PA speaker on a pole next to your ear. I always hated trying to play amplified upright since through most amps it just sounds bad to me, and I could never really hear myself and therefor intonation suffers!
This seems like a a great way to be heard, hear yourself, and have a lightweight rig. Very intrigued! I
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I've gone through a LOT of amps and cabs (especially after joining TB) :p

and I know I've said this before on these boards, but, for me, I think this is it. However, there are inevitably going to be folks for whom this type of system doesn't work.

The biggest downside is the schlep factor. You're carrying a speaker pole now, perhaps a bulky preamp and the mic thing seems to work best when you have some space between yourself and the other instruments. Then there's all the cables and stuff.

Some people may find it all too cumbersome, and perhaps easier to get a more uniform sound from a pickup from room to room.
 
#76
adbass said:
I've gone through a LOT of amps and cabs (especially after joining TB) :p

and I know I've said this before on these boards, but, for me, I think this is it. However, there are inevitably going to be folks for whom this type of system doesn't work.

The biggest downside is the schlep factor. You're carrying a speaker pole now, perhaps a bulky preamp and the mic thing seems to work best when you have some space between yourself and the other instruments. Then there's all the cables and stuff.

Some people may find it all too cumbersome, and perhaps easier to get a more uniform sound from a pickup from room to room.
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Well, its always less work than being a drummer!!:smug:
 
#77
Yes, there is the schlep factor but I've always gigged 'out of my car' so to speak so I feel it's worth it. I've now got an Aptflex pickup on my bass so I have to have an HPF pre in the chain to take out some of the hard thump, so that's another piece of kit to think about. But I can set up in a leisurely 15 mins. I've now got two dedicated wire bags; one for the QSC and one for the plug'n'play through the Clarus when I need it and that works well.

By the way, although the QSC K10 is said to be quite directional with a 90 degree dispersion I find that I can still hear it clearly when I am playing alongside it. And our keyboard player who was behind it at our last gig said he could hear it clearly as well. Recently I seem to have more than usual compliments on my playing - although I know it's the speaker!
 

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