I hear you - but this band wants to make a nice package. Digipaks, I believe.
My previous band went with cardboard sleeves through Bisondisc.com at about $1.20/unit shipped. I've mentioned it to them.
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I hear you - but this band wants to make a nice package. Digipaks, I believe.
My previous band went with cardboard sleeves through Bisondisc.com at about $1.20/unit shipped. I've mentioned it to them.
Is there a written band agreement? What happens if you're fired the day after you put the money in? Do you get your money back? Are you still entitled to a cut of the sales?
Is the percentage of money recouped that you're getting specified? Do you go on the writing credits?
Is the percentage of money recouped that you're getting specified? Do you go on the writing credits?
you are going to try and sell a 4-song CD ? For how much ?
I'd say no way, not for that kind of money.
If someone is going to buy your music on a CD, they will buy it no matter what the packaging.
If they are going to be demos/promos, then you shouldn't be spending that kind of cash.
I'd say no way, not for that kind of money.
If someone is going to buy your music on a CD, they will buy it no matter what the packaging.
If they are going to be demos/promos, then you shouldn't be spending that kind of cash.
Hell to the naw. In situations like this, i feel the band should earn the money it needs through gigging. Not to mention the fact that i don't have any credits on the album.
More importantly, CD's are on the outs. I would seriously consider not even going that route as CD's are more so becoming obsolete. Release a digital album and save the cash.
I'd bankroll the whole thing and get myself listed on the album as executive producer...and take a 50% cut of sales.
Do people still buy CDs? Just kidding...sort of. I wouldn't invest much into that format--certainly wouldn't do expensive packaging, even for a full album, in this day and age. I guess if some club owners really want a physical demo, then do the cheapest shortest run you can.
Since we're talking original music here, I'd put my money into the band's online presence and things like video before anything else (after the actual recording of course).
Interesting - some split responses here.
I am a realist. People do not buy CD's. I've only purchased music online for the better part of 7 years. I have made CD's in other bands and given them all away for free. This band, however, wants to make a real thing - and you can't really fault a band for wanting to make physical product.
Promoters or bar managers don't need cd's either - a business card with a link to your Bandcamp or Soundcloud can often get you the gig or not. A physical CD can't be streamed - and long ago are the times when a club owner would 'pop in a demo' and see if the band is any good. Nowadays, it's how many followers/likes/friends you have and whether or not you have a live performance on Youtube that's decent.
I know this.
I agree that the money could be better spent elsewhere - hell, even a Facebook promotion is probably money better spent.
I don't want to make physical product - but it's tough being the new guy and convincing them it's not such a smart idea.
I am a realist. People do not buy CD's. I've only purchased music online for the better part of 7 years. I have made CD's in other bands and given them all away for free. This band, however, wants to make a real thing - and you can't really fault a band for wanting to make physical product.
Promoters or bar managers don't need cd's either - a business card with a link to your Bandcamp or Soundcloud can often get you the gig or not. A physical CD can't be streamed - and long ago are the times when a club owner would 'pop in a demo' and see if the band is any good. Nowadays, it's how many followers/likes/friends you have and whether or not you have a live performance on Youtube that's decent.
I know this.
I agree that the money could be better spent elsewhere - hell, even a Facebook promotion is probably money better spent.
I don't want to make physical product - but it's tough being the new guy and convincing them it's not such a smart idea.
Why not? Without knowing much about this situation, it seems weird to ask you to throw in money as a goodwill gesture if they're not willing to at least sort out a cover with the actual band on it...as a goodwill gesture.
The thing I don't understand is why they would want to put something out as a duo when you are now a trio. If you're a bassist and they're not, you should rerecord all the basslines with your presumably better skills. If you can't do better than they did, why do they need you as a full member?
With the amount of time , money and energy that I put into an original project, I'd have to be on the recording. I know that I haven't heard your EP, but I cringe at the thought of someone tracking the bass who isn't a (very) good bass player to begin with. That's because I feel that there are nuances that only an experienced bass player can convey on a recording compared to someone who picks up the bass out of convenience because they don't have an actual bass player.
Cart before the horse - they took professional shots before getting a bassist. (money not well spent)
The story is they searched for a few months and didn't find the right player - then opted to record with the drummer and guitarist covering the bass. They are surprisingly capable. They felt under the gun to release something, at least digitally.
It's a quartet now, with a lead singer.
But there's no rush to put something out. Sounds halfassed.
So the current singer is not on the ep either? Makes no sense to put it out as is.
Many people don't know that Ringo Star did not play on the Beatles first recording of Love Me Do. Their producer didn't know Ringo and wanted to use a studio drummer. Ringo was certainly not happy about it and at the time nobody could have remotely imagined what the future held in store for the Beatles. So if it can work out for the greatest rock band ever.... Who knows?
