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Help! Is this a geniune Fullerton reissue P?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by nsop, Jun 18, 2017.


  1. nsop

    nsop

    Nov 15, 2015
    Copenhagen
    Hello. This P has been offered me at a decent price. Seller informs me it's a 62 reissue from 82 (neck and pots). Cosmetically it has a bit of wear – it has been stored for some time and apparently not in a friendly environment.

    The cracking on the body does look more like a poly than a nitro finish, I think. And there are no holes for bridge cover.

    Can anyone help shed some light over this. Fullerton bass or not?

    IMG_8167.PNG IMG_8168.PNG IMG_8169.PNG
     
  2. Dluxe

    Dluxe Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2011
    Austin, TX
    The position of the decal and no holes for the covers point to a Corona Reissue. Late 80's to early 1990's.
     
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  3. selowitch

    selowitch

    Aug 6, 2005
    Rockville MD
    Nice bass. I would consider snagging it if the price is good.
     
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  4. nsop

    nsop

    Nov 15, 2015
    Copenhagen
    @Dluxe

    Yes, I agree, but reading up on the matter, there are posters on the Fullerton RI club (which I just found) that say that the decal placement first got right later on (mayby 83) – the first year(s) were apparently more hit and miss. Dunno, still diggin'

    About the no holes – do we know for sure that all Fullertons came with covers installed?
     
  5. Need way better and way more pictures to draw any definitive conclusions. Right now I'm in the maybe/maybe not fullerton camp.
     
  6. As I understand it, there should at least be little dimples where the cover screws would go. No the did not come installed.

    I can't speak to PBass decal placement.

    But I'd like to clearly see the s/n, the fingerboard where it meets the headstock and some other things.

    Unless this dude is offering it for under a grand, no way would I grab it without many more detailed pictures.
     
  7. nsop

    nsop

    Nov 15, 2015
    Copenhagen
    A few more pics (and a serial)

    20170618_210045.
     

    Attached Files:

  8. Still a definite maybe.

    Need to see where the fretboard meets the headstock
     
  9. nsop

    nsop

    Nov 15, 2015
    Copenhagen
    Headstock closeup

    IMG_8171.PNG
     
  10. 60bass

    60bass Supporting Member

    Apr 24, 2005
    8 miles high
    The following is from the guitar dater project website

    Guitar Info

    This guitar is from the U.S. Vintage Series
    made at the Corona Plant (Fender)
    in Cannot be determined from serial number
    Production Number: 32059



    Fender: Corona
    Corona factory was opened in 1985, Corona California, with major guitar production starting in 1987. With the addition of a custom shop in 1987 the plant currently employs about 700 workers. Apart from general and Custom Shop Fender instruments and amplifiers, it also encompasses Guild acoustic & electric guitars.

    From Fender's website.

    1982 saw the introduction of the U.S. Vintage Series instruments and “V”-prefix serial numbers. The only way to definitively date U.S. instruments with “V”-prefix serial numbers is to remove the neck and check the butt end of the neck heel for a production date, which may be stamped or written there.

    SERIAL NUMBERS PRODUCTION DATES
    EI + 5 digits
    E2 + 5 digits
    E3 + 5 digits
    V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster) 1982
    (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)
    E2 + 5 digits
    E3 + 5 digits
    V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster) 1983
    (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)
    E3 + 5 digits
    E4 + 5 digits
    V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster) 1984
    (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)

    CBS sold Fender in March 1985. Serial numbering didn’t change because instruments continued to be made using existing tooling, parts and serial number schemes.

    SERIAL NUMBERS PRODUCTION DATES
    E3 + 5 digits
    E4 + 5 digits
    V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster) 1985
    (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)
    V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster) 1986
    (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)
    E4 + 5 digits
    V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster) 1987
    (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)
    E4 + 5 digits
    E8 + 5 digits
    V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster) 1988
    (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)
    E8 + 5 digits
    E9 + 5 digits
    V + 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster) 1989
    (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)

    So it should be clear as mud now. You need to get the neck off and check the true date.
     
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  11. GeneralElectric

    GeneralElectric

    Dec 26, 2007
    NY, NY
    All the vintage reissues were finished in nitro. Peeling like that comes from excessive heat. The bass might have been stored in an attic for a long time.

    I have a 1982 57RI. Neck date was for September 1982. The decal placement looks to be about the same as the bass in the OP.
     
  12. Dluxe

    Dluxe Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2011
    Austin, TX
    I had a surf green '87 with the same serial number range.
     
  13. Dluxe

    Dluxe Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2011
    Austin, TX
    Fullerton rosewood fretboards had a curved slab at the headstock. Like the original basses had up until late '62.
     
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  14. Dluxe

    Dluxe Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2011
    Austin, TX
    1991

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  15. Dluxe

    Dluxe Supporting Member

    Jan 9, 2011
    Austin, TX
    1983

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  16. ahc

    ahc

    Jul 31, 2009
    No. Virginia
    Does it have the "Fullerton Hump"? This is the small bump in the upper horn cutout (from routing) where the body curves up to meet the neck. I don't know which year this finally disappeared.
     
  17. Glazenn

    Glazenn

    May 16, 2011
    France
    FENDER AVRI DATES.

    So, V032xxx is statistically meaning "by January 88". Not a Fullerton (at least the neck plate isn't...)
    My 2005 AVRI '62 Jazz has it. I will check if my 1999 AVRI '62 P has it.
     
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  18. BritBass 2

    BritBass 2

    Jan 20, 2014
    The bass covers were supplied in individual bags , pilot holes drilled for the bridge but none for the neck pickup , only the pick guard holes to guide. Hope this info helps. IMG_2296.JPG IMG_2321.JPG
     
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  19. dennimonroe

    dennimonroe

    Nov 19, 2007
    Boston
    This does not seem to be a Fullerton reissue. I have two and they were made in early 83. They came with covers installed and case candy. The think the decal is in the wrong position too. Also, I don't think they originally came in black. I have read that bass production did not ramp up until early 1983.
     
  20. The Bass Clef

    The Bass Clef Formerly "thebrian" Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 17, 2010
    California
    Not a Fullerton. Ser # is too late, decal placement like late '80s, should have pilot holes for the bridge cover (as others have said).
     
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