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HELP ... MAJORLY CONFUSED

dustklose

dustklose

Feb 5, 2005
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i am so confused...i've read things and still NO HELP...

ok heres my question... if i am buyin a new head and cabinets....do i buy a 4 or 8 ohm??? like i'm buyin a head and then 1 cab for now with hopes to upgrade to more cabs in the future....so should i buy 8 ohm or 4 ohm??? should my head be 8 or 4 ohms??? please help...what would be a good setup for this right now...like what brands ... i was looking at the Ashdown Mag 300h.....but idk if that will work...and i want a 2x10 for now....please help :help: :help: :help:
 
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Basically any head you buy will cover both 4 and 8-ohm speaker loads. Cabs are rated at various impedances (4-ohm, 8-ohm, etc.), but heads are listed at what impedances they are stable at. Simply put, you couldn't put an Eden WT-400, for example, with a 2-ohm speaker load, because the WT-400 only goes down to 4-ohm loads. There are heads that will accomodate 2-ohm loads, if that's what you're after. The way to compare heads is to look at what power they produce at differen impedances. Then look at your speaker options.
 
#7
dustklose said:
that was the first thing i thought of buyin....haha thanks man
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I would think that you'd look for 8ohm cabinets. Most solid state/hybrid amps can work with either 4 or 8 ohm loads...That way, you can use 1 8ohm cabinet, or 2 8ohm cabinets (giving a total of 4 ohms when used together). There are a few solid state/hybrid amps that can work with a two ohm load...

This way, you can get one cab to start and a second later on...or you can buy 2 and choose to use one or both depending on the situation.


-B.
 
#9
dustklose said:
i am so confused...i've read things and still NO HELP...

ok heres my question... if i am buyin a new head and cabinets....do i buy a 4 or 8 ohm??? like i'm buyin a head and then 1 cab for now with hopes to upgrade to more cabs in the future....so should i buy 8 ohm or 4 ohm??? should my head be 8 or 4 ohms??? please help...what would be a good setup for this right now...like what brands ... i was looking at the Ashdown Mag 300h.....but idk if that will work...and i want a 2x10 for now....please help :help: :help: :help:
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Here's the deal:

If you buy a head that goes down to 4 ohms (that will include MOST heads: get an 8 ohm speaker and then you have the option of adding another 8 ohm speaker later.

If you buy a head that goes down to 2 ohms (more rare), then buy a 4 ohm speaker, and you can add another 4 ohm (or 8 ohm) speaker later.

It's most likely what you want is a head that goes down to 4 ohms and an 8 ohm speaker to go with it.

The mag300 goes down to 4 ohms.

A mag300 + an avatar 2x10 B210 is a good start. Just make sure to order the avatar 2x10 as an 8 ohm model.
 
#12
dustklose said:
thanks...you've helped alot...i'll prolly end up goin to the avatar site and buyin the mag300 w/ the 2x12 or 2x10
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Sounds like a good, economical rig --- if you get the 2x12, make sure to get it in 8 ohms if you want to add another cab later.

Personally, I'd be tempted to get a 4 ohm 2x12, then all your MAG power will go into that single cabinet. If you think a 2x12 is all you'll need, then this is the way to go.
 
#13
how much sound would the the mag 300h put out through a 2x12 would it be enuf to beat out my guitarists and a drummer? in a small auditorium...we have no pa system as of yet...but were tryin...while i'm talking about it...does anyone know what i all need to get to have a good pa system...i have no clue how they work!!!
 
#14
dustklose said:
how much sound would the the mag 300h put out through a 2x12 would it be enuf to beat out my guitarists and a drummer? in a small auditorium...we have no pa system as of yet...but were tryin...while i'm talking about it...does anyone know what i all need to get to have a good pa system...i have no clue how they work!!!
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Depending how loud they are, I would say:

- 2x10 will be borderline

- 2x12 will be enough, unless it's a loud metal band

- 4x10 (or two 2x10's) best of all
 
#16
PA's are very tricky to get right, much less sound good.

At the present, we play through some powered Mackie mains, with 2 12"s and a horn. For larger places w/out PA's, we usually rent a set of powered JBL subs and we never have any problems. We also have a Mackie 16-channel mixer that we use. No power amps, no thick Speakons to deal with, only enough surge protectors and extension cords to plug everything in! This has worked like a charm for us. I would suggest something similar. Until you start doing large venues that require thousands of watts of power (which most medium/large venues have their own PA and soundguy), you should get by with a set of powered mains and a 10 or 12 channel mixer.
 
#17
dustklose said:
ok...what about PA systems...is this the right place to talk about them too?? and what about the SB112 instead of the B212....its avatar...but SB is specialized for LOW B....and i play alot of Low B
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I have the SB112, and while it is a great cab, I wouldn't want to pit it against a loud drummer and guitarist. I use mine underneath a 4x10 live and use it alone for practice (plenty loud if'n yer not practicing at stage volume). I don't think the drivers in the 2x12 are any different than the 112. I also would be leery of pushing low B through it super loud by itself.
 

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