Help me with my rig fellow low-enders!

[Marko 1]

Fender Neo 6x10

THIS!

 

[johniecid]

I currently have a Fender Super Bassman and Fender Neo 610.

While I love the sound and would recommend it to anyone, I don't think switching cabs is the issue here. It is probably underpowering what you are trying to do. Same issue will exist with the Fender Neo610. I don't think the other cab combos you suggested will either.

Whether its a used solid state like the Ampeg 350/350H or the SVT-CL... upgrading that power section will probably make you happier (noting that you like Ampeg tone and would prefer to stay there... otherwise... come to the Fender Super Bassman side!)

 

[Wisebass]

Hi FIREpunkMEDIC

I'm gonna try messing around with eq a bit before I cange anything up.

Messing with the EQ is never wrong! You should also put your cab on two beer crates (not kiding!)

@Wasnex made a very good poit here:

get your cab up in the air

this will not only make you hear yourself better, it also decouples the cab => reduces muddy basses.

Just place two beer crates next to each other and your cab on top.

If I upgrade to an SVT-CL I would probably also keep the V4BRI for "smaller" gigs and recording purposes.

Of course! I love my V4B! It's not a small SVT!

The V4B has just the right amount of power to wake up my neighborhood, but isn't loud enough

to get the cops storming my place.

There's also a Femder Neo 6x10 being sold locally that has sparked my curiosity

That would be my starting point. A newer cab sounds tighter than your SLM period hlf.

Locally sounds good! If you can try it with your amp that would be great!

my other thought being maybe a 212av? Though I fear with a 212 there maybe some volume loss and be counter productive?

I like 212 cabs but horizontally a 212 will blow against my calves and vertically

the rig will look like an Ampeg Model T

The heads are just too large to fit!

But of course you can buy it and put a 610 on top (looks better than two beer crates)


greetings

Wise

 

[FIREpunkMEDIC]

Awesome

Hi FIREpunkMEDIC



Messing with the EQ is never wrong! You should also put your cab on two beer crates (not kiding!)

@Wasnex made a very good poit here:



this will not only make you hear yourself better, it also decouples the cab => reduces muddy basses.

Just place two beer crates next to each other and your cab on top.



Of course! I love my V4B! It's not a small SVT!

The V4B has just the right amount of power to wakeup my neighborhood, but isn't loud enough

to get the cops storming my place.



That would be my starting point. A newer cab sounds tighter than your SLM period hlf.

Locally sound good! If you can try it with your amp that would be great!



I like 212 cabs but horizontally a 212 will blow against my calves and vertically

the rig will look like an Ampeg Model T

The heads are just too large to fit!

But of course you can buy it and put a 610 on top (looks better than two beer crates)


greetings

Wise

That's my first step, drop the gain a bit and bump the master to compensate. I'd prefer not to give up on my V4B just yet as it has a great feel and is half the weight! Haha!

If the eq adjust doesn't do the trick I'm loving all the suggestions in here so far and adding tools to the toolbox to try out. This community is such a great resource to bounce ideas off of...

 

[Vincent Van Low]

Hey all!
So, I'm struggling with my rig and wondering which you'd recommend. I am currently running an ampeg V4B Reissue into a USA SLM Ampeg svt-610hlf. The volume is isbt an issue, but what I'm finding is my low end is not clear and punchy. Mids and highs are VERY present which is awesome but at our last gig it was hard to discern my low notes. We play in a pop-punk/power pop inspired cover band. Think Me First and The Gimme Gimmes but more current songs and female vocals. Playing a custom PJ (mainly just on P pickup) with Fralin overr wound pups. Would you say upgrade to an SVT-CL OR invest in a cab upgrade first?

Cheers everyone...

get the SVT 212AV cab, the v4b fits great with it. That cab is less that 66lbs. The 610hlf has been well documented for mud unless controlled with HPF, or major eq. I bought a 610hlf, could not have sold it fast enough, I do not like that cab.

 

[FIREpunkMEDIC]

get the SVT 212AV cab, the v4b fits great with it. That cab is less that 66lbs. The 610hlf has been well documented for mud unless controlled with HPF, or major eq. I bought a 610hlf, could not have sold it fast enough, I do not like that cab.

How's the volume compared to the 610hlf and the midrange punch? I love when my runs, octaves etc stand out.

 

[Vincent Van Low]

How's the volume compared to the 610hlf and the midrange punch? I love when my runs, octaves etc stand out.

The volume is not much different for me, I have (2) SVT 212AV just in case I want to get way loud with the v4b. But I have not been underpowered yet with (1) svt212 in a club, or smaller room. I like the voicing of this cab, its not quite as mid-punchy as my heritage810, but doesn't sound too far off. I could not get the 610hlf under control, and I really tried.

 

[Wisebass]

That's my first step, drop the gain a bit and bump the master to compensate.

If you have not maxed out your master, you have no idea how good your V4B can sound (not kidding!)

Start with the master at nearly max and the gain at zero. Everything else at noon.

Raise your gain until your pets leave the room and you still have a clean sound.

Then start working on your EQ. Always keep in mind the gain pot is your preamp volume

(it's on the left of the panel but in the circuit it's behind the EQ!!!)

It has nothing to do with your instrument level! (use the low or hi input jack for your bass)

When you boost frequencies you have to dial the gain a bit back to keep the sound clean.


greetings

Wise(b)ass

 

[Stylee Mousse]

The vintage V-4b has no master vol so in effect it is at "10" always. I have always ran mine (and my SVT) with all tone controls at pretty much noon which worked perfectly with my cabs.

I think you should audition the 610 neo - it might really work well. I feel a lot of people here haven't heard a good 100 watt head though an efficient 215 or similar. It gets loud and if you manage your low end it's better.

 

[Coot]

The vintage V-4b has no master vol so in effect it is at "10" always. I have always ran mine (and my SVT) with all tone controls at pretty much noon which worked perfectly with my cabs.

I think you should audition the 610 neo - it might really work well. I feel a lot of people here haven't heard a good 100 watt head though an efficient 215 or similar. It gets loud and if you manage your low end it's better.

I agree, (although I generally run a mesa WD800) when I'm in the mood for a valve amp tone, I run a cranked Traynor YBA 100 tube into my 2x mesa SW 15 's and it sounds fantastic and gets pretty loud as well.