Help! Need multitrack recorder much easier than Boss BR600!

[DJ Bebop]

Cool stuff. I use my L-12 similarly. It follows me around the house or wherever and I can lay down ideas on it as the urge takes me (though it's much more bare bones than the R20). Seems like a cool little device.

The L's have their plus sides and most of what may be lacking can be done in a computer later

 

[silky smoove]

But sure boss.

Cute

Regardless, developers deserve to be paid for their work, especially when they put a clearly defined and reasonable fee for a product in its use terms.

 

[tbz]

Cute

Regardless, developers deserve to be paid for their work, especially when they put a clearly defined and reasonable fee for a product in its use terms.

Based on the model they’ve implemented, they’re fine if they don’t.

I agree with you that it makes sense to pay if you can afford it. But it does seem like they don’t really care all that much.

Unlike, say, Adobe. Who very obviously wants you to pay.

 

[tothemax]

I think it goes with the old saying, "When you first start your career hang your diploma on the wall. When you start making money buy art..."

I hear lot's of posts about poor pay from gigs, why would paying for software be any different. At the end of the day as I tell the youngsters in our family - if it's "free" it ain't free. You are giving up something, email address, tracking cookies, access to advertising, something - otherwise these companies wouldn't survive. So you need to choose your freeware carefully. Personally if I do a trial and l decide to keep the software I figure it's worth purchasing the license for support at a minimum.

You do what you can afford to make your world go round.

 

[Passinwind]

I don't know why nobody ever mentions it but look into Cakewalk. It's actually free. It's very very powerful and extremely well put together. It's one of the oldest DAWs and until recently was a very expensive commercial product (until Bandlab picked it up and gave it out for free - and it's continually being upgraded). Personally I found it easier to use than Reaper. That being said, Reaper is pretty great too.

+1

I've just been doing a deep dive into Cakewalk this week since I lucked into a new interface, and I'm extremely impressed with what I'm seeing so far. I was quite surprised to see how often updates are being pushed and I also love the easy to use theme editor. As a bonus, I have an old Peavey control surface that was made for Sonar and it looks like it'll work fine with the current version of CWBBL.

I've never really quite bonded with Reaper for editing somehow, but it certainly can do a great job and many people seem to love the workflow.

 

[MVE]

+1

I've just been doing a deep dive into Cakewalk this week since I lucked into a new interface, and I'm extremely impressed with what I'm seeing so far. I was quite surprised to see how often updates are being pushed and I also love the easy to use theme editor. As a bonus, I have an old Peavey control surface that was made for Sonar and it looks like it'll work fine with the current version of CWBBL.

I've never really quite bonded with Reaper for editing somehow, but it certainly can do a great job and many people seem to love the workflow.

I love Cakewalk.

Pro Channel is all the plugins anyone really “needs”.

And drum replacer is amazing.

 

[Passinwind]

I love Cakewalk.

Pro Channel is all the plugins anyone really “needs”.

And drum replacer is amazing.

Just hoovering all the VSTs lurking elsewhere in my computer yielded a total of 100 plugs in the FX view, but the Pro Channel options are indeed very stout already. Love the built in convolution verb and the console emulations for instance. Haven't delved into the drum replacer or any VST instruments just yet, I'm just trying to get set up with a good theme, I/O config template, and general workflow feel for capture and editing right now. It seems a bit easier than most DAWs to get there from what I'm seeing.

 

[MVE]

Just hoovering all the VSTs lurking elsewhere in my computer yielded a total of 100 plugs in the FX view, but the Pro Channel options are indeed very stout already. Love the built in convolution verb and the console emulations for instance. Haven't delved into the drum replacer or any VST instruments just yet, I'm just trying to get set up with a good theme, I/O config template, and general workflow feel for capture and editing right now. It seems a bit easier than most DAWs to get there from what I'm seeing.

Drum replacer is pretty amazing.
You can use any track (preferably a drum track, lol) apply a quick narrow filter to isolate a specific instrument (kick for instance) and then use that as a trigger for a sampled kick. You can then wet/dry the sample into the original track to taste.
Its really great tool to make a “good” drum track perfect by mixing in just a bit of the snare and kick samples. -much better than trying to comp and eq them ad nauseam.

 

[Passinwind]

Drum replacer is pretty amazing.
You can use any track (preferably a drum track, lol) apply a quick narrow filter to isolate a specific instrument (kick for instance) and then use that as a trigger for a sampled kick. You can then wet/dry the sample into the original track to taste.
Its really great tool to make a “good” drum track perfect by mixing in just a bit of the snare and kick samples. -much better than trying to comp and eq them ad nauseam.

I saw you mention the first gen MOTU 828 in another thread. The 828x was what I lucked into, for now while I'm working through what it can do I've thrown it in this rack for tracking bass and guitar:

 

[MVE]

I saw you mention the first gen MOTU828 in another thread. The 828x was what I lucked into, for now while I'm working through what it can do I've thrown it in this rack for tracking bass and guitar:

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Nice PW 5B preamp, i gotta get me one of those.

Ive used my 828 for many years being fed from the 6 channel inserts from my Mackie 1402. If you only go to first click, they are pre eq and fader outs (essentially no frill mic pre with phantom; perfect for digital recording. Trim and low fq rolloff are the only things in use) You can still live monitor the channels to the main outs and eq as you would normally use the mixer.
Output from the 828 just goes back into one of the 4 extra stereo channels that don’t have mic-pres.
So if you stumble upon an old Mackie mixer, it makes a great front end for this ada.

 

[Passinwind]

Nice PW 5B preamp, i gotta get me one of those.

I've used my 828 for many years being fed from the 6 channel inserts from my Mackie 1402. If you only go to first click, they are pre eq and fader outs (essentially no frill mic pre with phantom; perfect for digital recording. Trim and low fq rolloff are the only things in use) You can still live monitor the channels to the main outs and eq as you would normally use the mixer.
So if you stumble upon an old Mackie mixer, it makes a great front end for this ada.

I had two 1202VLZs for quite a few years and often used them as you described. Unfortunately I sold off my Crest XR-20 a year or two ago, it had 12 balanced direct outs that could be assigned to channel faders pre or post EQ, among many other cool features.

The PW5B has now been upgraded to PW7B specs...LOL! It's a very basic clean quiet preamp with a Jensen output transformer and an Aux In on the back that allows bypassing the tone controls. If I need more than the two mic preamps in the 828x I'll probably just build a few as I have a few high friends in places I can steal borrow ideas from.