Help! Need to identify strings

[waterface]

Friend who gave me the strings is 110% sure he never bought Dunlop.

Go figure….

 

[drewphishesp]

lol they def look like dunlops to me

 

[HaphAsSard]

Thanks a lot everyone for your contribution!
My friend who gave me the strings could swear he never bought Dunlop. So I'm kind of back to square one...!
In fact they are quite hard to come by here in Italy, I've never seen them in actual stores and the large German online store that we often buy from (you know what I'm talking about) doesn't sell them.
I do see them on A****n but they are freaking expensive...

Friend who gave me the strings is 110% sure he never bought Dunlop.

Go figure….

Hold the presses:

if you're here in Italy, I'm inclined to think these are Galli Jazz Flats (so, their normal type, not the new nylon core Synthesis flats).

I've never used them, but happen to have a Galli flatwound 130 low B (JFW130) in my odds & ends drawer (I bought it on clearance years ago for less than 4 euros).
1) It has black silks at both ends,
2) it's about 95.5 cm from ball to start of silk (and I bought is as a standard-length, not extra-long), and
3) it is pretty flexible, for a flatwound low B.
4) The Galli 4-string set has the common 45-65-85-105 gauges but, as said above and demonstrated by our fellow countryman @Pier_, real and advertised gauges don't always coincide:
Real Gauge of Bass Strings - real gauge vs advertised gauge

5) They're also a lot easier to find and more affordable here than other makes and models, including Dogal (whose silk complement, for the Traditional and Jaco System, I do not know).

 

[moreblues]

You're right! I do remember about GHS P Flats being available in the old "long scale" (36.5" winding). And I do agree it would be nice if they would make the E a little shorter like the "long scale" by La Bella (36.75" winding), although I've never had any issue with the E wrapping around the post with the GHS.

+1 . I knew you would remember!
I’m glad I bought a bunch of these back in the day.
Here is an E string of GHS Precision flats that I just took out of my string drawer and measured.

 

[ThudThudThud]

I may be throwing in a red herring here, but Fender 7250 NPS used to be black silk, but are now red.
Is it possible (and I don't know at all) that their flats also had black silk at some point?

 

[michael_t]

I may be throwing in a red herring here, but Fender 7250 NPS used to be black silk, but are now red.
Is it possible (and I don't know at all) that their flats also had black silk at some point?

First, you're right about the old Fender 7250 having black silk, but when D'Addario too over their production around 2010, the silk disappeared; the current version has no silk, and they've never had red silk. (Maybe you have them confused with GHS Boomers?)

The older pre-2010 Fender 9050 flats had green silk only at the ball end and no silk at the tuner end. Besides, the older 9050s were even stiffer than the current ones so they wouldn't match the OP's description of the flats in question being "incredibly flexible".

 

[HaphAsSard]

I may be throwing in a red herring here, but Fender 7250 NPS used to be black silk, but are now red.
Is it possible (and I don't know at all) that their flats also had black silk at some point?

Every Fender flat I've seen on the net or in person has had green silks:

- late '60s or early '70s, green silks at both ends
- Seventies? same

- pre 1985, also green at both ends
- same era, short scale, same silk arrangement

- pre 2010 Fender flats (Precision bass depicted on the sleeve) had, by all TB accounts, green silks at the bridge end (ball-end) only

- post 2010 (big green F on the packet sleeve; after that, the current package, with a white sleeve, big gauge number and a coiled string around it) have again green silks, both ends.
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Nah - I'm willing to bet @waterface's strings are Galli flats.

 

[michael_t]

Nah - I'm willing to bet @waterface's strings are Galli flats.

Galli... That's one brand I'm not at all familiar with. Are they actually "flexible flats with black silk at both ends"?

 

[HaphAsSard]

Galli... That's one brand I'm not at all familiar with. Are they actually "flexible flats with black silk at both ends"?

Yes. Read my post above.

 

[GregT]

Picture of a Galli Jazz Flat string from the internet:

 

[michael_t]

if you're here in Italy, I'm inclined to think these are Galli Jazz Flats (so, their normal type, not the new nylon core Synthesis flats).

I've never used them, but happen to have a Galli flatwound 130 low B (JFW130) in my odds & ends drawer (I bought it on clearance years ago for less than 4 euros).
1) It has black silks at both ends,
2) it's about 95.5 cm from ball to start of silk (and I bought is as a standard-length, not extra-long), and
3) it is pretty flexible, for a flatwound low B.
4) The Galli 4-string set has the common 45-65-85-105 gauges but, as said above and demonstrated by our fellow countryman @Pier_, real and advertised gauges don't always coincide:
Real Gauge of Bass Strings - real gauge vs advertised gauge

5) They're also a lot easier to find and more affordable here than other makes and models, including Dogal (whose silk complement, for the Traditional and Jaco System, I do not know).

Picture of a Galli Jazz Flat string from the internet:
View attachment 4979686

Thanks, guys! I've learned something new today.

 

[GregT]

Thanks, guys! I've learned something new today.

Cool! You are definitely the go-to guy when it comes to strings here on TalkBass, for sure!

 

[michael_t]

Cool! You are definitely the go-to guy when it comes to strings here on TalkBass, for sure!

Looks like I'll have to do some serious research on some of the European brands, including Galli and Dogal.

 

[moreblues]

Good detective work guys! If I ever need strings identified, I know where to come…

 

[JimmyM]

Hold the presses:

if you're here in Italy, I'm inclined to think these are Galli Jazz Flats (so, their normal type, not the new nylon core Synthesis flats).

I've never used them, but happen to have a Galli flatwound 130 low B (JFW130) in my odds & ends drawer (I bought it on clearance years ago for less than 4 euros).
1) It has black silks at both ends,
2) it's about 95.5 cm from ball to start of silk (and I bought is as a standard-length, not extra-long), and
3) it is pretty flexible, for a flatwound low B.
4) The Galli 4-string set has the common 45-65-85-105 gauges but, as said above and demonstrated by our fellow countryman @Pier_, real and advertised gauges don't always coincide:
Real Gauge of Bass Strings - real gauge vs advertised gauge

5) They're also a lot easier to find and more affordable here than other makes and models, including Dogal (whose silk complement, for the Traditional and Jaco System, I do not know).

Nice job, Haph! That would make all the sense in the world.

 

[waterface]

Hold the presses:

if you're here in Italy, I'm inclined to think these are Galli Jazz Flats (so, their normal type, not the new nylon core Synthesis flats).

I've never used them, but happen to have a Galli flatwound 130 low B (JFW130) in my odds & ends drawer (I bought it on clearance years ago for less than 4 euros).
1) It has black silks at both ends,
2) it's about 95.5 cm from ball to start of silk (and I bought is as a standard-length, not extra-long), and
3) it is pretty flexible, for a flatwound low B.
4) The Galli 4-string set has the common 45-65-85-105 gauges but, as said above and demonstrated by our fellow countryman @Pier_, real and advertised gauges don't always coincide:
Real Gauge of Bass Strings - real gauge vs advertised gauge

5) They're also a lot easier to find and more affordable here than other makes and models, including Dogal (whose silk complement, for the Traditional and Jaco System, I do not know).

SENSATIONAL!
Thank you @HaphAsSard! I knew I had come to the right place, it was only a matter of time!

My friend confirms that it's very likely they are Galli Strings indeed.

Thanks also to everybody else who has contributed!

 

[HaphAsSard]

SENSATIONAL!
Thank you @HaphAsSard! I knew I had come to the right place, it was only a matter of time!

My friend confirms that it's very likely they are Galli Strings indeed.

Thanks also to everybody else who has contributed!

It was fun, collective sleauthing work! Location, the request for exact string length, and mere chance (man, I'd better stop accumulating crap and start using it!) all played a part.

 

[Ricky Rioli]

Man, I loved reading this thread