Help understand standard notation with treble and bass clef

[Jim Campbell]

let me know if those came through ok

 

[Jim Campbell]

You might want to check out the links in my sig. for some great TB info that may help you along your bass learning journey>

perhaps you could post a link to torontobassist's walking bass line thread....

 

[BigBlueF6]

WOW!! That will keep me busy for a while.

thanks.

 

[Jim Campbell]

WOW!! That will keep me busy for a while.

thanks.

forgot the 66 in the add.....no error message tho' so someone else is probably using a similar e name..try now

 

[fourstringburn]

I always recommend a teacher if you want to learn music, not just fretboard pattern memorization and tabs. A good accredited teacher will teach you at a pace that is right for you and will explain things along the way.

The problem is a lot of these so called teachers I see are mere players and as you already experienced, they want to just show you songs and licks and basic theory in tablature. That's just wasting your time and money, you can do that on your own by ear training and imitating what you hear. Learning tab "is so easy a caveman could do it! "

I'm sure many of these so-called teachers can't read a note of music yet they call themselves music teachers. When looking for a teacher, be sure to check their credentials and see what kind of music curriculum they offer. You'll know if they are legit.

While it is true you can learn music on your own in todays information age, It is still more beneficial to have a teacher guide you in the direction you want to be, at least in the primary levels. We used English teachers in school to learn how to read and write English, just as accomplished musicians used teachers how to read and write music. Music is a language. just something to think about...


Music is combination of melody,harmony rhythm,and silence.
Music is represented by notes A-G with sharps and flats in between.
These notes make up scale and chord tones.
Music is really just a combination of all these elements

tablature is a number system and contains no musical information or how to play the sum of all the above elements.


More food for thought: tablature wouldn't work on a unlined fretless bass.

 

[warnergt]

Tab is not music, it is a system used by people too lazy or competent to learn notation. I only know of it's existence in rock music on fretted instruments.

Perhaps that is because these fretted instruments - unlike most other
instruments - are capable of playing the same note in different locations.
Even for the most experienced players, it is a fact that playing bass or
guitar from scripted music is much easier when the decision of where
to play the notes is done in advance. This can only be done with tab;
regular notation does not support this.

I would say a score with tab is superior to a score alone. Don't
condescend to those who use tab because you can't appreciate its value.

 

[BassyBill]

Perhaps that is because these fretted instruments - unlike most other
instruments - are capable of playing the same note in different locations.
Even for the most experienced players, it is a fact that playing bass or
guitar from scripted music is much easier when the decision of where
to play the notes is done in advance. This can only be done with tab;
regular notation does not support this.

I would say a score with tab is superior to a score alone. Don't
condescend to those who use tab because you can't appreciate its value.

Tab certainly does have a role in showing how to play a particular piece - on occasion it's been as useful to me as it has been to others.

The issue I have with tab is when people see it as something that saves them the trouble of learning to read dots. If you rely on tab exclusively and can't read notation, you're really limiting yourself as a musician.

 

[Febs]

Perhaps that is because these fretted instruments - unlike most other instruments - are capable of playing the same note in different locations.

False. All of the instruments in the string family are capable of playing the same note in different locations. Reed instruments often have multiple fingerings for the same note.

Even for the most experienced players, it is a fact that playing bass or guitar from scripted music is much easier when the decision of where to play the notes is done in advance.

I disagree that the presence of tab makes reading easier, at least for anyone who is a proficient reader. It is certainly not a "fact" that the presence of tab will always make reading easier, particularly given some of the absurd fingerings I've seen in tab.

This can only be done with tab; regular notation does not support this.

This is also untrue.

 

[Rudreax]

We can all go ahead and discuss the merits (or lack of such) of tab and dots, but can we please not turn this thread into another one of those pointless arguments? We have more than enough saved on this site to know what this will undoubtedly turn into.

Focus on the OP here, guys.

 

[MetroBass]

While reading standard notation is beneficial in understanding the rhythm and timing of a piece of music, tab get's you orientated on the fret board much quicker. Also, a majority of what I play to is not available in standard notation (sheet music). If you want to get really confused go to the Berlin thread.