Help with noob question about Genzler Magellen 350 and cabs

[gman1000DB]

I'm a guitar player ... but for many years I've also owned and played a Charlie Hunter-style hybrid guitar (3 bass string + guitar strings; 2 outputs). I played the hybrid a ton in the early 2000s but haven't much in last 20 years. But I've been getting back into it, so I'm looking to buy a bass amp.

I'm looking for something that I can use for personal practice, garage jams, and the potential for a small-size gig (e.g. restaurant, outdoor cafe, small bar). I am highly prioritizing light-weight and size: in my late 40's and with a handful of nagging injuries, that is what it is.

I've landed on the Magellan 350 head + Bass Array 10-2-SERIES 2. At 19 pounds for the cab, that is hard to beat. And in reading a bunch of threads, it seems like many people whose goals were similar to mine landed on this setup.

Seems like this setup would be great for most of my applications ... but here is my question - if I want to scale this up, can I just add another Bass Array 10-2-SERIES 2? The Magellan 350 has 2 speaker outs, so I assume this would be no problem? 99% the answer is "yes you dolt, that is obviously fine." I did say this was going to be an ultra noob question!

Secondary question, but does this sound like a good choice given my goals? Would the 350 + 2 of the Bass Array 10-2-SERIES 2's be able to handle small/med venues?

Thanks-

 

[MaHei]

Your plan is sound, so yes to all of your questions. You will even be able to add a third cab as the head is 2.67 ohm stable.

 

[lomo]

Great plan. I'd add a Bass Array 12...which would give you 3 different scalable cab configurations. The 12 with the 350 will be plenty for jamming in a small to medium setting, even with an aggressive rock drummer, for most players. The stack with the 10 angled up towards your ears would be sweet. You could also go with the 210, but on it's own that cab is a lot less portable than the 112, which is a 1-hander.

 

[Hawk620]

My rig. An MG350 Combo at 23lbs with an added BA110-2 S2 cab at 19lbs. If you want a lightweight setup that sounds incredible and provides broad sound dispersion this is the best you'll find. Due to my age, back issues, and living in a 2nd floor unit with no elevator my larger heavier bass gear had to go and it was all pro level stuff. This is what I replaced it with and I couldn't be happier with the gear and the knowledge of how well Jeff Genzler stands behind his products. He post here in the Genzler Amplification Club at least weekly and is always available to answer questions or assist with any issues that may come up. Genzler is golden.

 

[Hawk620]

Secondary question, but does this sound like a good choice given my goals? Would the 350 + 2 of the Bass Array 10-2-SERIES 2's be able to handle small/med venues?

I thought I'd deal with this question on it's own. The answer is an unequivocal yes. In fact the MG350 Combo at 175w alone could easily handle all smaller venues and many medium sized one. There are users playing in pit bands and others playing smaller clubs doing just that.

The addition of a second BA110-2 cab allows the amp to produce it's full 350w and doubles the speaker area. Short of playing loud hard rock with a heavy handed drummer and guitarists who play 100w Marshall Stacks I don't feel there's anything my rig can't handle that I would ever play.

There is no problem adding a second or even a third cabinet as the MG350 will operate well with a 2.67 ohm load of three 8 ohm cabs. Some are doing just that with any Magellan Head. You won't hurt a thing. You can even combine different cab sizes if you wish. It's a very flexible system Genzler has created.

For it's size it puts out an amazing amount of volume which is very evenly spread across the stage and the room due to it's design with the vertical mounted full range speakers handling high mids and highs. With the 10" speakers it would also be an effective guitar rig for some especially playing an acoustic.

I only wish we had rigs like this 20-30 years ago when I was playing full time.

 

[SJan3]

I'm a guitar player ... but for many years I've also owned and played a Charlie Hunter-style hybrid guitar (3 bass string + guitar strings; 2 outputs). I played the hybrid a ton in the early 2000s but haven't much in last 20 years. But I've been getting back into it, so I'm looking to buy a bass amp.

I'm looking for something that I can use for personal practice, garage jams, and the potential for a small-size gig (e.g. restaurant, outdoor cafe, small bar). I am highly prioritizing light-weight and size: in my late 40's and with a handful of nagging injuries, that is what it is.

I've landed on the Magellan 350 head + Bass Array 10-2-SERIES 2. At 19 pounds for the cab, that is hard to beat. And in reading a bunch of threads, it seems like many people whose goals were similar to mine landed on this setup.

Seems like this setup would be great for most of my applications ... but here is my question - if I want to scale this up, can I just add another Bass Array 10-2-SERIES 2? The Magellan 350 has 2 speaker outs, so I assume this would be no problem? 99% the answer is "yes you dolt, that is obviously fine." I did say this was going to be an ultra noob question!

Secondary question, but does this sound like a good choice given my goals? Would the 350 + 2 of the Bass Array 10-2-SERIES 2's be able to handle small/med venues?

Thanks-

If only going with one cabinet initially, I'd lean you towards the 12" cab. You may find that it's all you need. The 10" may struggle in certain situations.

 

[Jeff Genzler]

@gman1000DB --- Thank you for your interest in our little MG-350-BA10-COMBO. Sounds like you've received first hand experiences to your questions so I hope that has helped you in your determinations. Always know that we're here and available for specific questions you may have before or after any potential purchase. This is a community and we do all we can to honor our responsibility in that regard.

 

[Hawk620]

If only going with one cabinet initially, I'd lean you towards the 12" cab. You may find that it's all you need. The 10" may struggle in certain situations.

And to that end there is also an MG350 Combo with a 12" MG-12T-V Neo cab.

https://genzleramplification.com/shop/magellan-350-mg12-combo/

 

[SJan3]

And to that end there is also an MG350 Combo with a 12" MG-12T-V Neo cab.

https://genzleramplification.com/shop/magellan-350-mg12-combo/

Yes, very nice combo.

 

[gman1000DB]

Yeah I'm sure I would like the 12" cab better ... cause when I'm playing bass I'm all about that low end. But it weighs a solid 10lbs more than the 10.

 

[Jeff Genzler]

Yeah I'm sure I would like the 12" cab better ... cause when I'm playing bass I'm all about that low end. But it weighs a solid 10lbs more than the 10.

@gman1000DB --- Thanks for continuing to consider our gear.
But just to clarity, the MG350-MG12-COMBO only weights 27 lbs total. The MG-12T-V cab only is a tick over 24 lbs plus the weigh to the amp. The MG350-BA10-COMBO is lighter at 23 lbs, the cab only is only 19 lbs.
In this age of weight concerns we just want to make sure the correct data is being reviewed. We do show our Shipping Weights on the website, and sometimes that gets confused.
Reviewing the performance differences, the smalle combo is almost startling as to how big it sounds from this small cab. And if size/performance is the key decider, that is a hard to beat combination. That is one reason why it is so popular and has done very well.
Certainly the larger combo set-up with the MG-12T-V cab, offers the larger woofer and larger cabinet, so thus output in this small stage format will be more.

Thanks again and hope some of this info is helpful.

 

[gman1000DB]

@gman1000DB --- Thanks for continuing to consider our gear.
But just to clarity, the MG350-MG12-COMBO only weights 27 lbs total. The MG-12T-V cab only is a tick over 24 lbs plus the weigh to the amp. The MG350-BA10-COMBO is lighter at 23 lbs, the cab only is only 19 lbs.
In this age of weight concerns we just want to make sure the correct data is being reviewed. We do show our Shipping Weights on the website, and sometimes that gets confused.
Reviewing the performance differences, the smalle combo is almost startling as to how big it sounds from this small cab. And if size/performance is the key decider, that is a hard to beat combination. That is one reason why it is so popular and has done very well.
Certainly the larger combo set-up with the MG-12T-V cab, offers the larger woofer and larger cabinet, so thus output in this small stage format will be more.

Thanks again and hope some of this info is helpful.

Ah gotcha ... I had been only looking at the Bass Array cabs. Within the Bass Array line, the lightest 12" cab (BA2-112-3SLT) is 10 pounds heavier than the BA-10-2-S2. But yeah I hadn't really been looking at the MG-12-V, which at 24lbs is only 4-5 pounds heavier than the BA2-10-2-S2.

So yeah that would be a 12" option that is only ~4 pounds heavier. Bigger footprint and cubic volume, but like you said - only 4-5 pounds heavier, so a good option to consider!

 

[Hawk620]

I believe that what we all appreciate so much about the line is available flexibility of matching the best choice of amp head with the cab combination(s) that best suit our needs. All bases have been covered from smaller very efficient combos all the way up to 800w multi cab stage rigs for larger venues. There are single and multiple speaker 10", 12" and 15" Bass Array cabs and the same with Neo and Ceramic cabs It's all there.

 

[Mario Ed]

To add to the discussion. I bought the Magellan 350 BA 10-2 series 1 combo awhile back and recently added a BA2-112-SLT cab and love the sound with both cabs hooked up. The 10 inch combo sounds sweet and works for most situations but adding the 12 inch cab really fills in the sound. I can use either cab alone for a gig or both cabs if needed. For at home practice I like using both cabs, they sound great at lower volumes.

 

[bherman]

I owned the 350/110 combo, as well as a second cab, for some years. One cab can handle many situations, the second cab of course adds volume but also depth. I also used the 350 head with the Genzler 112TV and loved it - not as compact as the 110, but a great standalone cab. My take - if you want to stick to a single cab, the MG112 TV that Jeff G mentions above is the way that I would go in the same situation. Great quality gear and excellent service from Genzler if ever needed.

 

[jjk2007]

One thing I've said many times in our Genzler owners thread is (IME) the ability to run the array type cabinets at lower volumes and still be heard clearly due to the design. I would think for small/garage jams a single 10 would work fine. Two would be plenty....I think if necessary I could get away with a '2X10' setup in my band for most of the stages and venues we play (we do always have PA support). I went with the 'one cab to rule them all' as a just in case and have never come close to running my BA410 at full capacity. Keep us posted on what path you take!

 

[rok51]

I, too, have the MG350 combo and BA10-2 extension cabinet. Echoing the above comments, the little combo itself handles far more situations than I thought possible when I first purchased it. Coming from a Shuttle 3.0-10T (wonderful amp, btw) with a matching 10T extension cabinet, I had just figured that I would need the extra cabinet as I had with the Shuttle setup, so I sprang for the second BA10-2 at the same time as the 350 combo. Truthfully, the combo by itself has handled gigs that would have required both of my Shuttle cabinets…and has done it in a way that is more pleasing to my ears. I was an early adopter of the MG800 (still using it)…and the reported increase in "heft" of the notes was very true in my experience, which led to me selling my Shuttle and going to Jeff's new iteration. Like the MG800, the MG350 combo had the same authority to the notes and, for me, was a large improvement. The increase in sound dispersion on stage was another real benefit to the bass array system. Adding the second BA10-2 gives me the flexibility to handle a larger gig than I would have expected—especially given its size. I have played outdoor gigs with it, not expecting much, when I was too lazy to grab one of my larger setups…and simply was blown away by how it sat in the mix when recorded. I can't endorse the MG350 combo any more highly.

Kim

 

[noahw1]

Genzler is fantastic gear and @Jeff Genzler is truly a gem.