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Double Bass HOFFMEISTER NR. 1, AUDITION SOLO?

#21
#1 I am sure you are a very good judge of how well you play hoffmeister because I know you are a very very accomplished bass player and your friends in Pittsburgh would be perfect judges of such a thing. I know that the turkish player (sorry I can't remember his name - apologies) who won assistant in minneapolis played 'unconventional' solos - he is by all accounts quite incredible. If you play it well then I say go for it.

#2 Vanhal is most definately harder than capuzzi - I don't know what octave you are playing but the 'normal' requirements put it in the stratusfear (sp??). If that isn't hard enough do the gruber cadenzas they are very challenging. I'm sorry you don't like it - it's my favorite concerto. ;)
 
#22
Regarding the difficulty of Vanhal.. The piece itself is not harder than Dragonetti... Personally I think that what sets Vanahl apart from Dragonetti is the extremely hard versions of cadenzas you can get for the Vanhal. Dragonetti should not be underestimated, because from what I see not a lot of people can play it well these days. Maybe it's because it's such a common concerto that its "virtuosic" value has been lost.
 
#23
mcnaire2004 said:
Well on alot of symphony sites they have the Dragonetti in A as one of the concerto choises. I recently played the Dragonetti in G for a audition and I was told that the Dragonetti isn't that high of a difficulty level. And, as far as Continuo goes. Are you refering to "the Bottesini" as all of his concerto's? Or just one? I dislike his second Concerto but I think the first one is increadible. The Di Bravura and his Concerto for violin and bass is amazing to. If you only heard one of the Bottesini concerto's I urge you to listen to the rest. Even if you hate one the others are good. I listen to them (free) on rhapsody. It has Concerto No. 1(Gran Concerto in F sharpe minor), Concerto for bass and violin (Gran concerto for bass and violin), and it has the Edgar Meyer playing the Concerto No.2.
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I offer you some information mcnaire. Pertaining to continuo's post, the Grand Duo Concertante would not apply when in regard to an audition for a job. Also, when a bass player refers to "the Bottesini", there is a 99.9% chance that they are referring to the 2nd concerto in B minor (or a minor depending on tuning). I hate to be the bearer of bad news if you really don't like the piece mcnaire, but if you plan on going to school to play bass, you're gonna hear the Bottesini more than enough times to make your ears bleed. You've been warned grasshopper.
 
#24
bassiebass said:
#2 Vanhal is most definately harder than capuzzi - I don't know what octave you are playing but the 'normal' requirements put it in the stratusfear (sp??). If that isn't hard enough do the gruber cadenzas they are very challenging. I'm sorry you don't like it - it's my favorite concerto. ;)
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What I meant was that if the vanhal WASN'T in the stratosphere for it's second theme, it would be about as easy as the Capuzzi. Whoever said the thing about the cadenzas, that is a very good point. Regarding those, too, all my teacher has been able to supply me with is transcriptions of the cadenzas written in bass clef and meant to be transposed up an octave (along the lines of playing the cello suites out of an original edition). This would be fine, except it takes my brain FOREVER to translate some of that stuff properly, as I immediately start reading treble clef. Anybody know where you can get the cadenzas written in conventional notation?
 
#25
People don't play the Dragonetti because it's common knowledge that it wasn't even by him...the whole thing sounds like an etude with a piano going back and forth on tonic and dominant chords. The second movement is pretty though but not very difficult! I agree that Hoffmeister 1 kicks ass and that it should be an audition standard.
 
#26
jsbachsonata said:
Regarding the difficulty of Vanhal.. The piece itself is not harder than Dragonetti... Personally I think that what sets Vanahl apart from Dragonetti is the extremely hard versions of cadenzas you can get for the Vanhal. Dragonetti should not be underestimated, because from what I see not a lot of people can play it well these days. Maybe it's because it's such a common concerto that its "virtuosic" value has been lost.
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The Vanhal is in a different league than the Dragonetti. The Vanhal contains actual phrasing and music making.
 
#29
SpaceWanderer said:
How many concertis did Hoffchester write?
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3 Concerto's, all originally in D Major played in Viennese Tuning with a Semi-tone Scordatura up into Eb Major. The three concerti are now played in C Major and tuned up to D Major (Solo Tuning.) Also...If you're playing Concerto No. 1, use the Henle Verlag URTEXT edition, the others have a lot of incorrect octaves, rhythms, and notes.
 

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