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How do you play chords?

Discussion in 'Music [DB]' started by lloccmttocs, Jun 4, 2007.


  1. I'm playing the dragonetti in A and my teacher told me to learn up to the two chords after the first phrase. I just don't get how you do it. Can anyone enighten me on how to do that and how to do intervals with more than 2 notes in it
     
  2. I don't know the piece, but to play chords on the bass is similar to a cello technique.

    If the chord has four notes in the space of, lets say, a minim: E B E G#, then play the E and B together in a space of a crotchet, and the E and G# in the space of the remaining crotchet. You cannot play all four notes together as it is physically impossible so you need to produce the effect.
     
  3. chaurett

    chaurett Supporting Member

    Sep 18, 2002
    Storrs Mansfield
    You mean the G Major chord, right? There are a couple of ways to do it. On the first part of the beat I like to play the open G and the B on the D string with my 1st finger and then grab the D and G harmonics with my 3rd and 4th fingers on the second part of the beat. Yes, try to make it sound like a rolled chord on a cello or violin. The other way to do it is to actually roll it. In thumb position, G on the E string with the second finger(often this note is omitted), B on the A string with the first finger, and harmonics with the thumb for the D and G.
     
  4. always low to high unless otherwise indicated, I'm assuming you've gathered from the two previous posts that its just not gonna work like a double stop, essentially try to mimic a guitar or piano chord, rolling from bass notes to higher ones.
     
  5. Tune your bass in 5ths like Red Mitchell and Joel Quarrington!
     
  6. Aaron Saunders

    Aaron Saunders

    Apr 27, 2002
    Ontario
    :D Could you imagine re-learning the Dragonetti in 5ths after already learning it in 4ths? *shudder*
     
  7. Tbeers

    Tbeers

    Mar 27, 2005
    Berlin
    The above posts are correct. But here's something cool:
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    Joe Venuti = awesome! He could play 4 string voicings on violin!
     
  8. Aaron Saunders

    Aaron Saunders

    Apr 27, 2002
    Ontario
    Ridiculous. Could you imagine the intonation issues?! :eek:
     
  9. Wouldn't it be the same as playing a fretless guitar?
     
  10. Tbeers

    Tbeers

    Mar 27, 2005
    Berlin
    There are recordings of him playing that way, it sounds awesome!
     
  11. I'm sure you've all heard the great Joe Venuti stories?
     
  12. Enlighten us...
     
  13. OK...Joe was a legend in the practical joke dept.
    Cowboy star, Roy Rogers was just getting ready to make his entrance to a thronging mass of children and their mothers at a NY theatre matinee atop his Wonder Horse Trigger.
    Joe was stanging next to Roy and Trigger, talking to Roy, while playing with Trigge'rs dick with his violin bow. Soon, Trigger has a huge erection, dripping.
    You can imagine the faces on the mothers, when Roy runs Trig out and rears him up on his hind legs.
    There's bunches of these stories about Joe.
    He once called every bass player in the L.A. Union and said: "I have a good paying gig in Monterey. I'll pick you up at 7o'clock at Hollywood and Vine on Saturday night." Many many bassists showed up with thier basses at 7 looking for the guy who called them, while Joe watched the specticle from his hotel window.
    I heard later, that they were tuba players....you can bet one or the other is true.
     
  14. Damon Rondeau

    Damon Rondeau Journeyman Clam Artist Supporting Member

    Nov 19, 2002
    Winnipeg, baby
    Paul, I'm interested in your first answer about tuning in fifths. I've just checked out those glorious videos of Red with Clark Terry and, of course, Red's playing double stops and chords all over the damn place. I haven't thought it through, but the fifths tuning really enables that, does it? Did Red start playing more of that stuff after he changed tunings?

    Also on those vids his tone just jumps off his fingers...
     
  15. Damon, I think we have at least one 5th tuner here on TBDB. I can't tell you why 5th tuning enables at least 10ths to be easier to pull off.When you see Red play now, it's based totally on 5th tuning. In the 4th tuning days I don't remember any double stops happening much. He still had that beautiful melodic concept going though. Always.
     
  16. Johnny L

    Johnny L

    Feb 14, 2002
    Victoria, TX
    If you tune the way Red did, then you finger 10ths the same way you finger octaves in 4ths tuning.

    I haven't looked at the Dragonetti in a while so I don't remember if it goes past the D on the G string. If no, then you could do it in 5ths tuning while staying in the key of G...and then you could just stop the strings where you would normally do the natural harmonics for the arpeggios...I think...still learning to play in 5ths tuning myself...
     
  17. Hey Damon, could you provide me with the links to the Red-
    clark You Tube stuff?
    Great to hear that you're trying it. I'm too old.
    We had Larry Holloway on TBDB for a while, he tunes in fifths. There was one more guy...I dunno what happened to them.
    Thanks in advance for the links!
    Have you seen the Dennis Masuzzo book?
     
  18. Damon Rondeau

    Damon Rondeau Journeyman Clam Artist Supporting Member

    Nov 19, 2002
    Winnipeg, baby
  19. Thanks...I do alot of double and triple stops. A GOOD source of what's possible in 4ths is, of course, Michael Moore.
     
  20. Ed Fuqua

    Ed Fuqua

    Dec 13, 1999
    Augusta GA
    Chuck Sher publishes my book, WALKING BASSICS:The Fundamentals of Jazz Bass Playing.
    Also Dave Finck, he plays a lot of double stops and triple stops. And at ridiculous tempos too....
     
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