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How far away to stand from rig

#21
Wow, in Toronto, you're often practically standing on your amp... I tilt back my EA rig slightly and roll off some of the bottom - boost some of the mids...

I played one show where (stupid me) I agreed to use the house rig. The house rig was a GK400 Backline of some sort with one Traynor 2x10 and one Traynor 1x15. I was standing one foot in front and to the right of it - had it cranked to eleven and no matter what I did to the EQ I could not hear the damn thing...
 
#23
bimplizkit said:
Instead of placing your rig at the back of the stage and pointing it forward, try side-washing (place the rig to your side, pointing across the stage from right to left or left to right.) Cab on the floor, aimed slightly upward too.
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In general, especially on smaller stages, cab placement can make or break a stage mix.
 
#24
If you want to hear the notes, the cabinet needs to be pointed at your head. And the volume of the rig at your ears needs to be a little bit louder than everything else is at your ears - usually everything else is too loud.

If you want to feel the bottom end (such as it is with bass rigs), you need to wander the stage and find the spot where the bass rig and the wash from the PA all arrive in phase with each other.
 
#25
I played with one of these at a trade show & really liked it:
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Then I just built a small platform (3 ft x 5 ft) with 3/4" plywood & 2 x 2's around the edge. I set my amp on one end & stand on it and can feel the bass. Works great in small spaces when I have to stand close to my amp, like at rehearsal.
 
#27
TimmyP said:
If you want to hear the notes, the cabinet needs to be pointed at your head. And the volume of the rig at your ears needs to be a little bit louder than everything else is at your ears - usually everything else is too loud.

If you want to feel the bottom end (such as it is with bass rigs), you need to wander the stage and find the spot where the bass rig and the wash from the PA all arrive in phase with each other.
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I have my cabinet raised on a 10 space rack as the picture shows in my previous post. I also use an IEM setup (see the pic) and usually just use one earbud. I find I can balance the monitor in my single ear and have just enough bass in the mix as well to help define all the woofiness that surrounds me.

Also on real bad stages where it is just one bif cotton ball of noise I can survive by using both earbuds.

CP
 
#28
musicman7722 said:
Also on real bad stages where it is just one bif cotton ball of noise I can survive by using both earbuds.
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I've always been amazed at how "hearable" my EA rig is... I don't think I've been on a single stage with my EA rig where I wasn't able to hear it... It doesn't seem to "beat" the same way when there are stage issues... perhaps its the transmission-line cabinet design... You can even hear it while standing right next to it!
 
#29
I use a wedge , at 45° , in front of me , this way I hear myself loud and clear , and I don't wash the rest of the house.

I do my own mix for my bass, my vocal , and I get a mix of the rest from the FOH. Do that on a 828mk3.

If the wedge doesn't work , I use IEM.
 
#30
musicman7722 said:
I have my cabinet raised on a 10 space rack as the picture shows in my previous post. I also use an IEM setup (see the pic) and usually just use one earbud. I find I can balance the monitor in my single ear and have just enough bass in the mix as well to help define all the woofiness that surrounds me.

Also on real bad stages where it is just one bif cotton ball of noise I can survive by using both earbuds.

CP
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If you are using only one bud, set the volume level with both buds in, then remove the one bud. Setting the volume with only one bud in almost assures that you will set it at an unsafe level.
 
#31
Paulie Jay said:
Gee, some of the venues in Sydney you are literally standing with your butt cheeks caressing the grill of your rig (Three Wise Monkeys, George St, Sydney).
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That's how I like it. I raise the cab (4*10) on a milk crate and I'm practically leaning on it. One sound man said I'm looking for the shake. I guess it's true. I like to feel the air pushing but I still hear every note clearly.
 
#34
TimmyP said:
If you are using only one bud, set the volume level with both buds in, then remove the one bud. Setting the volume with only one bud in almost assures that you will set it at an unsafe level.
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Yes that is a good point. I bring my entire IEM volume to 0 and listen with my open ear first. Then I bring up the IEM just enough to fill in the blanks. I only sing a few songs, mostly backups so I don't need a lot of vlolume either, and then I dial up the bass enough to hear the strings but no thump. Plenty of thump swirling around and it is usable once the strings are defined in my ear.

CP
 
#35
frankie5string said:
I've always been amazed at how "hearable" my EA rig is... I don't think I've been on a single stage with my EA rig where I wasn't able to hear it... It doesn't seem to "beat" the same way when there are stage issues... perhaps its the transmission-line cabinet design... You can even hear it while standing right next to it!
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IPs sound great off axis too.
 

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