How long does it take you to get a song down cold?

[Clef_de_fa]

A sheet music is NOT music, is NOT Jazz.
Only a Musician can make it Music, Jazz.

Well dah? Same thing with movies script... what was your point?

 

[Whousedtoplay]

Well dah? Same thing with movies script... what was your point?

Here is my point.
In your post you've said the following:

Red Hot Chili Peppers in a few minutes it will be done.

Really???

To me, Music starts with Mood, Character, Attitude, etc... - It's all about the SOUND. Having a piece of paper with some notes does not mean Music to me.

I don't want to provide RHCP's songs for your comments (usually, it creates a lot of unnecessary background emotions); therefore, let's check Tony Levin's decades old bass-lines.
We can start with a super composition - "Digging In The Dirt".
The bass-line - mostly(!) - consists of boring Roots, but...
Make it sound with the band the way Tony Levin achieved on the record - it will take some serious (probably, never ending) time to get close to it.



Now, here is a live version of the same song.
It has a similar but slightly different "feel".
The same Tony Levin.
My point.
Just learning some notes does not get us MUSIC!
You must create that Music from scratch every time you perform.

And that is my point.
Learning notes - it's just a START for your creation of Music. Now, you must adjust those notes aurally with your band.


P.S. I could not prevent me from posting another interesting song with Tony Levin's cool bass-line.
I wonder if our TB members would try to learn Tony Levin's "strange" fills note-by-note.

 

[Clef_de_fa]

Here is my point.
In your post you've said the following:


Really???

To me, Music starts with Mood, Character, Attitude, etc... - It's all about the SOUND. Having a piece of paper with some notes does not mean Music to me.

I don't want to provide RHCP's songs for your comments (usually, it creates a lot of unnecessary background emotions); therefore, let's check Tony Levin's decades old bass-lines.
We can start with a super composition - "Digging In The Dirt".
The bass-line - mostly(!) - consists of boring Roots, but...
Make it sound with the band the way Tony Levin achieved on the record - it will take some serious (probably, never ending) time to get close to it.



Now, here is a live version of the same song.
It has a similar but slightly different "feel".
The same Tony Levin.
My point.
Just learning some notes does not get us MUSIC!
You must create that Music from scratch every time you perform.

And that is my point.
Learning notes - it's just a START for your creation of Music. Now, you must adjust those notes aurally with your band.


P.S. I could not prevent me from posting another interesting song with Tony Levin's cool bass-line.
I wonder if our TB members would try to learn Tony Levin's "strange" fills note-by-note.

When I learn music from sheet I learn what is written... once thé time to perform the music I'll put some emotions into it. I see learning and performing as two seperate thing. I won't learn to perform or put emotions into music, you'ré human you have feelings you can put emotions into music.

 

[Tony In Philly]

I've checked your band's web-site. Cool!
Could you tell me more about your right hand technique from your Intro video, around 0:46?
Is it some "derivative" from Slap?
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Thanks for checking it out. Apparently I'm thumping hard with the thumb to get that octave E and D a bit fatter. I'm not so sure if Geezer Butler did that in the same spot!

 

[MrLenny1]

Depends on what level you are at and also depends on
the song, how complex or easy.
Usually gets easier as you're ears develop and you're
level of playing picks up.

 

[stonetone7]

Depends on the song. Could be anywhere from 15 minutes to months, years or never in my life.

That has been my experience too. I'll figure out most any rock, pop or country song within minutes. And yet it's been 30 years and I still turn Sir Duke into a clambake every time.

But 90 percent of the time I eventually get there, and the more time goes by the faster it seems to happen. I usually just listen and play along with it for (insert unit of time here) until I get there.

I once did a year playing bass in a band that hosted a weekly open mic, and that really developed my ability to figure things out on the fly. It was the best thing I ever did as a musician.