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How much difference does an Aftermarket Bridge actually make?

Through an amp? You've recorded stuff, made the change, and re-recorded?

I'm not attacking, or even doubting. I'm honestly asking. If you have, you are more perceptive than me.

I ask because I did this a couple years ago on another forum with a bunch of stuff, mostly pickups (guitar, not bass) and we were all amazed at how little - like, infinitesimal - difference stuff makes once you run through an amp and cabinet. Supposedly hearing is the sense with the poorest 'memory', don't know if that's true or not, but my experience supports it.

Comparison recordings? Oh god no...I know in most cases it wouldn't show anything. What I'm talking about is probably not overt enough to be obvious in a recording but lot of it depends on the particular bridge. The difference between a heavy brass bridge and a Danelectro type wood saddle is extreme and I'm sure most people could hear that recorded. Between a Badass and a vintage threaded rod you probably couldn't. But that's not to say it's won't make a big picture difference in the sound of the music you play. Something I notice to pretty minute degrees is the feel of the vibration of the strings between different bridges....I prefer lighter bridges a lot because I like the way they feel more than any super obvious sonic changes. A friend of mine is involved in prototyping titanium vintage Fender replacement bridges. From what I've seen so far I'll probably try one because of the super alive feel it has. A bridge is just one component in a system that includes the idiosyncratic perceptions of the player.

In a lot of ways you're very right though and anyone changing a bridge expecting to have their world rocked will be badly disappointed....it's not something you're going to get a huge amount of bang for your buck change out of like you would swapping pickups or strings. But where one might say "infinitesimal" another might say "subtle" and subtle counts. We're kinda into that grey area where if it makes a difference to me it makes a real difference and it doesn't really matter if my perception is more keen than yours or just my imagination....you can't measure it so who's to say?

I guess I just don't want to see anyone dissuaded from experimenting and finding out for themselves. If I hadn't tried different bridges I wouldn't have discovered how important the feel differences are to me. Ultimately these are tools for creating art......logic and empirical measurements aren't always the whole story of the end result.
 
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I replaced the original bridge on my Fender P with a Badass for stability reasons . I later replaced that with a brass dimarzio 'cos I kept breaking strings @ the bridge end ☺. I couldn't hear much of a difference, but at the next gig, the trumpet player made a point of announcing - "the bass sounds good tonight".!!!!
 
I guess I just don't want to see anyone dissuaded from experimenting and finding out for themselves. If I hadn't tried different bridges I wouldn't have discovered how important the feel differences are to me. Ultimately these are tools for creating art......logic and empirical measurements aren't always the whole story of the end result.

Now that I agree with. I know that changing stuff, even if it's inaudible to the world at large, can often make us play differently. Or even just happier; I know when I have my Cabro pickguard project done, I'll be happier with the bass and will probably play it better even though it makes zero difference in the sound. I'm all on board with that angle.

Probably my cynicism comes from primarily being a guitar player and hearing all the insanity the high end spouts. Holger Notzel, one of the guys behind Komet amps, even claimed that the kind of wood his head cabinets were made from affected tone.

I did a comparison a couple years ago with six PAF-style pickups. I recorded clips of each of them in the same guitar, with the same set of strings, adjusted the same way, etc. It was nearly impossible to tell any differences, either by me or any of the three dozen other forumites who 'played along'. I'd wager serious money that the guys who are winding pickups under bridges in Harvest moonlight with Latverian pixie dust wouldn't be able to tell theirs from an assortment of others of the same type.

I've pretty much determined that, as far as the sound that comes out of the amp, there are two things that are responsible for most of the sound - the pickup type (i.e. a T-bird is gonna be very different from a J), and body construction (solidbody versus archtop hollow, for example). In the bass world, of course, strings make a big difference that's not so common with guitars. Everything else, even if you can pick it out in a recording soloed, gets lost in a mix of other instruments.

But as you say, all that said, I'm a big fan of tweaking. You get to know your instruments, and when you have them set up 'just so', you're a better and happier player.
 
One bass of mine, switched bridges- HUGE improvement, noticeably clearer in the high and lows. Added a pound to the bass, though.

Another bass- Changed from Badass to vintage threaded- HUGE improvement, noticeably fuller across the spectrum with improved string tautness and playability. Removed half a pound from the bass as well.

As always, ymmv.
 
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I've pretty much determined that, as far as the sound that comes out of the amp, there are two things that are responsible for most of the sound - the pickup type (i.e. a T-bird is gonna be very different from a J), and body construction (solidbody versus archtop hollow, for example).

Very much agree with this. In my experience the body type also effects how much difference a bridge makes. The more resonant the body the more sonic difference a bridge seems to make. I had an Azola archtop ABG for a long time and the two bridges I had for it sounded very different. A little less pronounced but still very obvious with a hollow Jerry Jones going from the single wood saddle to the all metal adjustable saddle bridge. On the 6.75lb '57 RI P-Bass I've had for thirty years I heard a more subtle difference going from the Badass that was on it for a long time back to the stock vintage type bridge. On an 11lb late 80's P-Bass I had for a while I noticed almost no difference in either sound or feel between the Badass and the stock bridge.
 
I believe there can benefits from a bridge change/upgrade, but I don't think they are necessarily sound/tone improvements. I just mean the practical things, like ease of installation/removal of strings, ease of intonation, and adding string-through capability.

So if you are trying to correct an issue you don't like with the current bridge, go for it. If you are changing because, save your money.

Bob
 
If its simply a matter of weight then tie a bag of sand to the back of your bass.

The pro way would be to loop a 5lb shotbag through the back of your strap....the resonant frequencies of steel shot are MUCH more musical than sand. :D
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I changed out the bridge and tailpiece on my Les Paul, went from stock crap to lightweight aluminum tailpiece and ABR bridge (I think changed it from a Nashville), also swapped out the bridge posts for stainless steel. My guitar tech recommended it, I said sure, in the end it made an enormous difference, and I had a classic "blanket off the guitar" moment. Now the guitar resonates through the whole body (the sound is not just localized at the bridge), much brighter and clearer, had to back the treble off on my amp about three notches because I was getting so much more high end back. I've also heard nuts made from different materials change the tone as well.

I have no idea if this would translate for bass or not, but I've heard it work on a guitar.
 
The pro way would be to loop a 5lb shotbag through the back of your strap....the resonant frequencies of steel shot are MUCH more musical than sand. :D
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If its simply a matter of weight then tie a bag of sand to the back of your bass.
A bag at the back doesn't connect the strings with the bass body. Your comment doesn´t work in so many levels...
These remedies are good for neck dive, just not so much for bridge issues.