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How to play bass in a condo? Please help!

Hello Talkbass fam,
I am getting old and going into simi-retirement. I am selling my home and moving into a condo in a gated community. The place is great for me and my wife, it is dream land for old people. I have a pond that the back of the condo is over, and then views of the James River out front.
The only bad thing is I will have up and downstairs neighbors! The place is built pretty solid, and we do not have anyone on the sides of us. The upstairs neighbor is only over a small portion of us, and not where my bass equipment will be... but bass does travel!
Over the last few years I have been playing through mostly these setups...
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I am guessing this is no longer going to work for me, since even on extreme low volume these suckers can be heard downstairs in the well built home I have been currently living in.

I am looking for suggesting on what I can do to be polite to my new neighbors, and as well as being able to play at all times of day/night guilt free.

I have seen the new little 110 Aguilar cabs, so I plan on buying a few of those regardless if they are the best option. There are a few other cabs like that I might get as well since I am retiring without endless yardwork of my normal summers, and plan on playing even more bass.

Has anyone else gone through this?
Was small combo amps the answer? I really want to maintain the tone of what I have now, so money is not an issue.

Just to note, my son play's bass as well. We also have two Martin acoustics that we play often, so that does help.

Thanks in advance...
-ScottM
Headphones and DI or just ampless
 
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Hey, congrats on retirement ! ! and downsizing your home!! I have a few more years to go, but then I just mainly change careers work 3 or 4 days/wk. I have to have some type of responsibility or I will be a fat alcoholic!
I like the idea someone said of taking the cab off the floor. Floor coupling seems to make the house shake!
 
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Dude I might have to give away all of my Mesa stuff because it is too big for me to want to put into my new office since it will not be used anymore.

About 2 years ago in prep for this I gave away two brand new Markbass stacks. It could happen.
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They were the first to fall for the great retirement purge!
-ScottM

Wait... GIVE it away?
If that's the case, just lemme know and I'll make the drive your way lickety-split, lol.
 
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Headphones and DI or just ampless
You know, I think the ampless idea will happen a lot.

Hey, congrats on retirement ! ! and downsizing your home!! I have a few more years to go, but then I just mainly change careers work 3 or 4 days/wk. I have to have some type of responsibility or I will be a fat alcoholic!
I like the idea someone said of taking the cab off the floor. Floor coupling seems to make the house shake!
Thank you.


These have all been great suggestions everyone. I think I am going to end up trying a little of everything.
I got a pretty fat check coming to me once we close... so the wife gets the fancy new place and I'll be getting new gear.

-ScottM
 
It has nothing to do with magnetic pull. My father has a combination pacemaker and defibrilator installed in his heart and the doctors all gave warnings about magnetic proximity. The problem is that modern devices like this have some means of transmitting a signal that the doctor can check on to see how the device is functioning without the patient (my father in this case) to need to come in for an exam. In the case of the defibrilator firing it sends an emergency alert to the doctor and a phone tree is activated that calls my dad's cell phone to make sure he's alright. In my father's case he has a secondary device that sits on his bedside table that his pacemaker communicates with. This secondary device has a cellular card to send and receive information with his doctor. Having a magnet in proximity to either device has been shown to interrupt their ability to transmit as-intended. That is the problem, not any issue with "pull."

My cardiologist installed a monitoring gizmo in my chest (that's connected to my phone via bluetooth). She never mentioned anything about magnetic fields, nor did I find anything in the instructions that came with the device. Now I'm curious. Hmmmmm...

@scottm, I use a small cab with one 8" driver (Mike Arnopol Crazy8), sitting atop an upholstered ottoman facing me - about 3-5 feet from my face. I can hear it very clearly, and my wife says she can't hear it when she's not inside.

I find that, as long as I keep the background music down to a reasonable level, I don't need to turn up my bass loud enough to bother others.

When I need to be very quiet, I listen to the background music through a very small bluetooth speaker which puts out so little below about 100Hz that I can't hear the bass on the recording.

It's only when I need to be exceptionally quiet (e.g., visiting grandson taking a nap) that I listen via headphones. I choose sealed headphones when I don't want anyone else to hear the bleed from my 'phones; open-backed phones annoy my wife because she can hear only the bleed, and she'd prefer to hear me AND the music I'm listening to.

Good luck!
 
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Here ya go. Mount it on foam or something. You can peek through the glass at the TV lol.

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My cardiologist installed a monitoring gizmo in my chest (that's connected to my phone via bluetooth). She never mentioned anything about magnetic fields, nor did I find anything in the instructions that came with the device. Now I'm curious. Hmmmmm...
They made quite a big deal about it with my dad, and not just relative to magnetic interference. Specifically they called out phones, tablets, routers, modems, Bluetooth devices, etc. all of which are signal transmitting/receiving devices and are a pretty obvious thing to avoid. The specific call out for magnets was the one that initially surprised me. Perhaps a combination pacemaker and defibrillator capable of delivering an electrical shock that will (according to the doctor) "feel like you got kicked in the chest" merited more scrutiny than your monitoring gizmo :p
 
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I live in a condo, and you will definitely get yelled at if you play your bass amplified at all, even if it isn't as loud as your neighbor's microwave. It is frustrating.

In fact, if they simply see you moving your gear in and out of that place your neighbors will start thinking they hear you using it even when you aren't.

Couple tips:

1) if they don't already exist in the bylaws, discuss "quiet hours" being agreed upon times when you don't amplify your bass (and they don't hammer nails in the wall at 6 am)
2) get a good mixer and set up a practice rig you can amplify with headphones... for me that is my usual pedalboard into my Axe-Fx (modeled to sound like my gigging amp), my Vocal Mic, and Garageband running into a 6 channel yamaha mixer into Audio Technica ATH-M50x headphones. Even though I gig with in-ears I find the over-the-ears superior for home practice, especially with nothing in the room (drums, etc.)
 
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Here ya go. Mount it on foam or something. You can peek through the glass at the TV lol.

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I know you were joking, but for the sake of being pedantic and avoiding someone actually buying one for this purpose; Zenbooth products are only optimized for STC and would do little to prevent transmission of bass frequencies, especially when considering they don't have an isolated floor which would do nothing for the downstairs neighbor. Also, foam does nothing for transmission loss.
 
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I know you were joking, but for the sake of being pedantic and avoiding someone actually buying one for this purpose; Zenbooth products are only optimized for STC and would do little to prevent transmission of bass frequencies, especially when considering they don't have an isolated floor which would do nothing for the downstairs neighbor. Also, foam does nothing for transmission loss.
Well you're no fun... :)
 
Well you're no fun... :)
I had someone on a local Facebook bass player's group reach out to me about one of these products asking if they were viable for use in her house. I did some research for her, and determined that in her specific case they might be (playing in an attached garage on a concrete slab) but the STC emphasis made me question if it would still do the job of preventing transmission into the adjacent kitchen which was annoying her husband and kids. In the case of the OP, it's a big no.

Also... yes... I'm no fun :p
 
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Haven't read all 5 pages but have a few thoughts - I live in a SF home but often my wife is in the next room so I often practice silently. I use the Waza Air Bass setup, got it initially as a good way to be able to play along with tunes that I am learning (bluetooth connection to my iPad, and use Amazing SlowDowner if I need to learn parts). In your situation, I might also look at a really small amp and keep it off the floor. One that caught my eye is the Phil Jones Micro 7: P: M-7 Combo Amp | Phil Jones Bass

And looking at your first post, I'd probably pick one amp/cab combo that I like the best and sell the rest. You'll probably find a band or 2 to play in, and 1 or sometimes 2 cabs would do it. For me, it would be one of the Mesa heads and a 112 and 115.
 
I have this on my radar, any suggestions on brands/models?

While this is an option... I would like to watch TV while I play bass.... hey, I am slowing down in life so I deserve a little future laziness. Plus, I am not sure if I want to wear headphones all of the time.

Thanks!

-ScottM
My recommendation for your needs would be high quality open-back headphones like these Beyerdynamic DR 990 Pros. This style of headphones should sound great and let enough sound in to enable multitasking between practice and TV. The only downside is that some sound will also leak out, which may or may not be a nuisance to anyone sitting nearby while you practice.
 
I have never used earbuds before. Are you talking like the Apple Earbuds?
My son has a pair of those so I'll have to give them a try.
Will they handle bass?

I like the idea of building a killer stack of pedals and just bass heads and running them through some kind of setup I could toggle through with headphones or computer speakers.

-ScottM
Yes, Apple earbuds. It will probably require some adjustments on your preamp compared with traditional style headphones but the low end sounds surprisingly good thru them.
 
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