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Double Bass How to speed up sibelius no.2

#2
It's been four or five years since I played it but I don't remember any crazy rhythms. Just slow down with a metronome and work them out.

Also, check out Barbirolli's recording. It's my favorite by far. The last movement is my ultimate victory movement. I'll sometimes drive around with the volume all the way up listening to it... that and Mutters Sibelius.
 
#3
I could work on getting a recording put together for you. I'm assuming the particular measures that are giving you grief are from rehearsal H to K in the second movement?

None the less, a metronome is your friend and always will be when it comes to tough rhythms. Although 32nd triplets are rather cruel...
 
#4
Hey Ryker how long would that take?
It is indeed those measures! I've been looking at the score to music to get a better idea of how H to K goes.
Btw I only have next week left to practice this as I have a workshop on the week before orhestra.
Thanks,
C.M
 
#5
One key factor is paying attention to left hand tension. The more tension, the harder it is to play fast. The faster we play, the slower the motions become in the left hand. slower smooth motion translates into less motion. less motion translates into faster playing. For the bow, start away from bridge, then each time you play it through, get closer to the bridge. Make sure you do not press. The closer to the bridge, the less tension physically. Lower back should be relaxed at all times. No facial tension as well. The face is a reflection of body tension.
 
#6
I just played Sibelius 2. H to K were in four (with our conductor), not very fast but still enough that you cannot really nail all those notes rhythmically. Just learn the notes and rythms so you can fake it well (strauss-style). Don't be confused by the celli, the first times are with Contrabasson - you are in unison with the celli from 156.
 
#8
Thanks Kurt I've taken that advice and I'm watching my left arm movement and trying to Minimalize it. I am playing somwhere in between the Mide from the end of the board to the bridge I find if I bring it to close to the bridge I lose tone but If i bring it to close to the board I start to hit other strings.
Yep it's in four on My music as well Martin. I managed to break the rhythm down slowly but What tempo did you play it at ruffly, the music indicates Poco Largamente? Would the be around 60 BPM?

Thanks Everyone for all your help It's invaluable!
C.M.
kurt muroki said:
Or you can learn the notes. I remember playing Beethoven 9 with alois posch. He played every single note with style
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Yep i'm definitely going to try and nail as many notes as I can if not all of them!
 
#9
Basscat125 said:
Thanks Kurt I've taken that advice and I'm watching my left arm movement and trying to Minimalize it. I am playing somwhere in between the Mide from the end of the board to the bridge I find if I bring it to close to the bridge I lose tone but If i bring it to close to the board I start to hit other strings.
Yep it's in four on My music as well Martin. I managed to break the rhythm down slowly but What tempo did you play it at ruffly, the music indicates Poco Largamente? Would the be around 60 BPM?

Thanks Everyone for all your help It's invaluable!
C.M.

Yep i'm definitely going to try and nail as many notes as I can if not all of them!
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It could be 60, I think we did it a little faster, say 70somehting perhaps. Then it can be done at 80 or maybe even 90, depending on what the guy waving the stick thinks.

Don't get me wrong. Learn it, shred it, but once it's for real, it's all about the first note and the next beat - everything in between just have to be in the right key and with everyone else. If you nail the the notes in between, then that's great. Personally I don't know if I nailed the notes in between, I just let muscle memory have a go while I focused on the ensemble and music, but it sounded right.

EDIT: What I really meant: once you've learnt it slowly in the practise room, chances are it will be right then when you 'cheat'.
 

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