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How to walking bass properly (not the beginner formula)

I acquired and have gone thru this course:
Walking Bass Bootcamp | TalkBass.com
It really helped me a lot. Also was pretty enlightening/applicable as a tool for bass fills.
One thing, you gotta go through it. Do every single thing in every single lesson like you're going to be quizzed on it at some random time in the future and your life depends on doing well on that quiz. - Sorry for the drama, was just having a bit of fun. Not sure how you can get access to the info, as the class appears to be closed. If it becomes available at some point, I really do recommend it. If you take it completely seriously, and do every single thing instructed, there's no way you won't improve.
 
... of anyone I’ve heard
OK, but maybe check out, oh I don't know, Oscar Pettiford, Paul Chambers, Ray Brown, Milt Hinton, Sam Jones, Leroy Vinegar, Sonny Dallas, Vinnie Burke, Doug Watkins, Butch Warren, Ron Carter, Teddy Kotick, and oh so many more...
 
So I didn't play much of walking bass but sometimes I do need it for like rock&roll and jazz or blues songs at church, Im always fine with the simplest formula or arpeggios.

But now that im getting better as a player i want to learn about how to actually build a real walking bass (not that of 5mintues instant walking bass, or easiest way to, or beginner friendly type of walking)

But i cannot seems to find anyone actually teaching how to do it in youtube (I know paid lessons will have it tho but yknow)

So can someone please help me to understand how to actually build a proper walking bass

I think of walking lines as being either arpeggiated, linear, or a hybrid of the two.

As you pointed out arpeggiated tends to be what you learn first. You basically spell out chord tones. To make a linear line, you can start by putting none-chord tones on beats 3 and 4. You can also think of these tones as upper extensions to the chord. 9 = 2, 11 = 4, 13 = 6.

Jazz tends to wonder around different key centers and also to use altered extensions. Being aware of this will help you make better note choices. Beats 1 and 2 get harmonic emphasis and should usually be a chord tone. Beat 1 is usually the root, but you can learn to break this rule. Beats 3 and 4 get rhythmic emphasis, and this is usually where use none-chord tones.

Hybrid lines just have elements of arpeggiated and linear lines, so no new knowledge is required to play a hybrid line.

Most people seem to think linear lines are better, but IMHO it's situational. Some songs really sound best with simple arpeggiated lines, while others favor mostly linear lines.

There are various strategies you can use for playing none-chord tones. The most basic is to simply use diatonic passing tones. Diatonic essentially means the notes belong to the prevailing key center. For example you might play a measure with 1,2,3,4 and then land on the 5 which is the root in the next bar.

More advanced strategies use none-diatonic tones. Rather than explaining, here is a resource that you should find helpful: [Bob magnusson] the_art_of_walking_bass_a_method_(book_za.org) (slideshare.net)

Specifically I am referring to chromatic approaches and chromatic surrounds.

It takes time and experience to learn to create a good walking line. When you first start, it tends to be slow and require a lot of mental effort. I remember playing super slow and out of time, so I had enough time to think about note choices. The concepts are very simple but there is so much to keep track off. What are the chord tones, and what are the diatonic none-chord tones (key center).


I would learn songs in building blocks. For example I might work on one bar until I have developed a variety of note choices. Then I will move on to the next bar and do the same. Next I may work on both of the bars, so I can choose notes that lead from one chord to the next. The point is you need to develop sort of a spatial awareness, so you know where you are, where you are coming from, and where you are going. All of these effect your note choices.

After I figured out how to play two bars, I may move on the next bar. As I get comfortable, the building blocks add up to three bars, four bars, etc.

You need to develop your ear as well as your knowledge of theory. I think of theory as informing the ear. In other words, learning some new theory opens you up to different sounds and textures, that you may not be familiar with.

When you are actually playing, you tend to rely more on automatic learned responses, because the music often passes too quickly to actually think in pure theory. The chord symbols become archetypes for stores of information and patterns. The idea is eventually you see the chord symbol in the context of the music, and you pretty much know what to do on an instinctual level without a lot of thought.

To reach this point you need to have played the song in. This mostly relates to your choice of none-chord tones. The chord symbol tells you the chords tones very clearly, but they don't always help with the none-chord tones. This is because a minor 7 chord can function in different ways. For example in Major key centers you have ii-7, ii-7, vi-7. The implied diatonic none-chord tones are different for each of these. This is where you may consider practicing modes.

By playing a song in, you get the sound of the harmony and melody in your head, and over time you learn a bunch of patterns that work. To play a song in, you may have to really slow down and play out of time, so that you can actually work out the theory on a conscious level. Then later as you become more familiar, you don't really have to think so much. You see the chord, hear what others are doing, and sort of imagine the line you want to play while your fingers do the work.

Lot's of songs use the exact same chord progressions. As long as you are playing a song that fits in this category, you should get to the point where you can site read from the chord symbols and play a decent bass line.

However, there are also more compositions with much more sophisticated harmony, and these often require us mere mortals to work things out. In other words you may have to work through the alterations in the harmony and try to cobble together a line that works. I find that this sort of music frequently narrows what I can do. There are lots of possibilities, but I may only develop a couple ideas that I think actually work well over a given section.

There are ways to overcome these limitations, but I don't have the necessary sophistication of knowledge or the drive to attain it. My concealed point is you could spend the rest of your life learning how to play music. Don't be in too much of a rush, and try to enjoy the journey for as long as you can. In my experience when you stop growing, you eventually tend to stop wanting to play...in other words your musical journey is over.

Hope some of this is helpful,

Good luck!
 
For example in Major key centers you have ii-7, ii-7, vi-7.

Sorry for the typo, this should have read ii-7, iii-7, vi-7.

Furthermore: The lower case roman numerals indicate a minor triad. The dash indicates minor as well. D-7 = D minor 7 or D min7. Part of the fun is learning to recognize and interpret the chord symbols as there are multiple ways to annotate many chords.
 
IMO if you want your walking bass lines to be more than quarter note time keeping and to be harmonically/melodically integrated with the music, there is no way around learning scale intervals and chord tones. For example, if the chord for a particular measure is Cmaj then any notes from the Cmaj scale will work in that measure, some more appropriately than others, whereas a # or b note played in that measure would be a "tension" note waiting to be resolved to a natural.
We can know the notes to use in a particular measure by name and also by interval (3, 5, 7, etc) and by shapes on the fretboard.
 
So I didn't play much of walking bass but sometimes I do need it for like rock&roll and jazz or blues songs at church, Im always fine with the simplest formula or arpeggios.

But now that im getting better as a player i want to learn about how to actually build a real walking bass (not that of 5mintues instant walking bass, or easiest way to, or beginner friendly type of walking)

But i cannot seems to find anyone actually teaching how to do it in youtube (I know paid lessons will have it tho but yknow)

So can someone please help me to understand how to actually build a proper walking bass

Learn song melodies. You want to learn the fundamentals of walking, for sure. But knowing melodies will allow you to take that to the next level - you can añlude to the melody with your lines, y9u can voice-lead the song, you can craft counterpoint, you can reharmonize. Learn melodies.
 
Play at least one tone from the chord at some point before the next change, unless you don’t want to.

The absolute most important thing is to keep walking. Even if you hit the wrong note, and that’s if the note is really wrong.

To be slightly more serious, it’s probably better to throw non-chord tones on the 2 and 4 if you’re going to use them.
 
Fwiw, I'm learning to play Pride and Joy from Stevie Ray Vaughan. That base line doesn't repeat much, has lots of interesting sections. A nice walking learning challenge IMO. If you think about what's going on I think it's pretty informative and inventive.
 
A good leash and a few poo bags are essential to walking a bass. Unless late at night...just make sure to wake up early to watch the neighbors step in bass doo doo.
I guess what I'm saying is....once you have a grounding/foundation in walking...to take it to the next step, is only limited by your own creativity. Sometimes and idea will work out, other times you'll scrap it and develop a new idea.