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How to you load an 810 alone?

I see a lot people say a 410hlf is harder to move than an 810e.... I have both and I'm not really sure I follow the logic. I can carry my 410 up and down steps wtih no help... the 810 requires an appliance dolly, 2 ratchet straps, a back brace, and 3 tylonol (with codine)

I can lift the 410 up and down from my tailgate and wheel it in and out.

How do you get on loading an 810 alone? Do you tilt it back first, and then lift at the bottom end and slide it on the skid pads? I usually recruit help, and then load it in and out wheels first.
 
I had a bass player friend online (we eventually met in person) who owned a vintage Ampeg 8 x 10" and sold it.

He crated it up in plywood (did a fantastic job) and took it to the freight place in the back of a Saab 9000 (four door with a huge hatch).

How on earth he loaded the cabinet AND the crate into the back of the Saab (no doubt it fit, he showed me a picture) by himself is a mystery to me.

My heaviest cab(s) are Carvin single 18" cabinets; these weigh 72 pounds with a cover and casters on them.

I would load them into the back of a low station wagon by picking them up, putting the top 1/3 of the cab on the edge of the load floor, then sliding the rest in. It was not hard at all but obviously 72 pounds is a LOT less than what you are dealing with.

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When I had an Ampeg 810 I also had a truck so it was pretty easy to get in the bed. Roll it up against the tailgate and tilt/slide it in, either tugging up on the towel bar or grabbing the feet. Once you get over scratching the tolex that seemed to get tears in it just looking at it stairs weren't much of an issue either. Just send it! Took more care going up but down was easy enough. Besides the tolex they are pretty durable.
 
When I had an Ampeg 810 I also had a truck so it was pretty easy to get in the bed. Roll it up against the tailgate and tilt/slide it in, either tugging up on the towel bar or grabbing the feet. Once you get over scratching the tolex that seemed to get tears in it just looking at it stairs weren't much of an issue either. Just send it! Took more care going up but down was easy enough. Besides the tolex they are pretty durable.
Ditto on the truck bed, I can still do it myself at 60 but it's good to get help.
 
I see a lot people say a 410hlf is harder to move than an 810e.... I have both and I'm not really sure I follow the logic. I can carry my 410 up and down steps wtih no help... the 810 requires an appliance dolly, 2 ratchet straps, a back brace, and 3 tylonol (with codine)

I can lift the 410 up and down from my tailgate and wheel it in and out.

How do you get on loading an 810 alone? Do you tilt it back first, and then lift at the bottom end and slide it on the skid pads? I usually recruit help, and then load it in and out wheels first.

No problem at all and no pain medication is required.

Our rehearsal space, where my 810 also lives, is at ground level. So, when it's time to load up for a gig, I drive up with the band's van to the entrance, open up the rear and then I cart the 810 outside. It's really easy to pull behind me using the tug bar, yes, even if that means a couple of blocks.

I place it with its side to the vehicle. I tilt the top over, then grab it by the bottom, give it a little lift, and with the van supporting the weight, it slides in perfectly. Warning: yes, this rips up the tolex, but that doesn't bother me, as mine is a early '90's model and I got it well-used anyway. Depending on the transport that we rent/get, it travels in this position or right side up. I can raise it up by myself with ease.

If we get something more cramped, like a Volkswagen Transporter T4 (aka EuroVan?), then it needs to be loaded up by me and a bandmate. Two people are enough to pick it up (yes you read that correctly, pick up a 810 and hold it up) and place in the back easily, a third one might be good to assist so we don't drop it.

As for loading out at the gig, it's just all going backwards.

I'm not the strongest guy out there - quite the contrary - but I can cart it around, pull it up stairs, etc. with no problems at all.
 
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I've been on the 410 program for thirty years but it was always easier to load an Ampeg 810 than my old 410 SWR. Just roll, tip and slide. You gotta deadlift that SWR. 95 pounds.

Only recently, having bought a lightweight Neo 410, has that changed. And frankly it would STILL be easier to get that Ampeg in and out of the car than lifting a 56 pound cabinet. Wouldn't fit the stage at most of my gigs is the main issue with an 810.
 
Not to derail, but is there a real psychological effect that leads us all to believe heavier cabs, amps and even basses, make more better bassy sounds than “light” stuff?
No, it’s a physical effect. And it’s not the heaviness. It’s the amount of speakers and the amount of air they move.