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How would you feel?

#21
craigie said:
Squid pro bro: when you see him give a card you give yourself as well. You can both get to know the contacts. Just have a discussion able how to best present yourselves.
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No no no a million times no. There should be one and only one point of contact for booking with a particular venue, otherwise you are going to confuse people and you are going to cross lines of communication and get stuff messed up.

You do need to address this behavior with your bandmate. It's childish, seems ego-based, and is already detrimental to the band and has the potential to become worse.
 
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#24
lame. But I do like the suggestion to just tell him, "Hey man, that gig said you and the band on the poster, how did that happen?"

And for the pushy business card thing, I would literally just tell him, "Hey, if I am talking business to somebody, that is MY business. You can talk to to them when I am finished."

I've had a band member or two who would interrupt me when I was talking, and really, it only took one serious sit down talk to get that over with. "Like really, we are all adults here, you need to understand this bothers me, and it has potential to effect our working together. Got it ?"
 
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#26
I would have a chat with him to see how this happened. I'd also ask whom ever is in charge of entertainment/recreation at the retirement home what name he booked under so he couldn't pass it off as someone else doing that to the posters. Be sure to include the third member in any discussions and get their opinion. Might be a good idea to do that before you act should you choose to.
And if I was taking a card from someone and a band member jumped in front of that person/interrupted/elbowed their way in to toss his card my way, I would take it as 1: And egotistical and childish act of control 2: A lack of tact and consideration on their part and 3: a totally un-professional course of action! I may also "loose" said card so as not to deal with that person in the future. He may end up hurting himself (or more seriously, your band) in that way. In a band, you don't usurp each other. It's called common courtesy. I wouldn't expect to be given a contact by another musician/band, or band mate for that matter, without being willing to pass along another contact or at least a good word to a contact. That is simply a jerk move. I can feel your frustration with this.
 
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#28
Definitely obnoxious behavior. Sounds like a narcissist, certainly not a rarity in this business. I would dip my toe in and see what the response is like, something innocuous like "hey man, I was a little surprised to see how we were billed at that gig, don't we want to build our brand recognition and resumé as a band?"

Depending on how based in reality his answer is, you'll at least know what you're up against. Then it's up to you to answer the age old question... how much do I need to get paid to put up with this?
 
#29
I would ask about the billing thing. About every couple of years or so, we play a show in my guitar players home town and without fail they (the purchasers) always bill it as "The Guitar Player and The Band Name". It probably creates a bigger draw, knowing that he's one of their own. Although they never seem to get the band name exactly right. As far as the business card thing goes, it's annoying, but their needs to be a discussion about protocol. Figure out if you're going to steer all leads through a booking person within the band or if you're all on your own. As someone said, without that it's confusing for a potential purchaser and a FUBAR waiting to happen. Once that's established he'll have no reason to come muddy the waters, so to speak.
 
#30
There is only one thing to do:

Successfully Casting a Gypsy Curse

  1. Find the root of a Caro plant
  2. Yell Hungarian limericks at it
  3. Pour a glass of beer
  4. Drink
  5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until you can't remember why you're angry
  6. If that doesn't work, send me $500 in small, unmarked bills, and I will cast the curse on your behalf
 
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#33
Maybe the retirement home made the posters off his business card? Maybe his business card doesn't have the band's name on it, and the poster designer just went with what they were given to work with?

Make sure he only uses business cards with the band's name on it. Make it crystal clear that he is to only book gigs using the band's name so that this situation never happens again.
 
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#35
The obvious answer to a majority of the threads posted to Band Management seem to be "explain your problem to the troublemaker". :D
That said I wouldn't be mad about the business cards but billing the band under the wrong name is certainly a valid thing to complain about, and I don't think you're being overly sensitive. Just ask him to explain, if he says it wasn't his fault let it slide. Otherwise bring the other member into the mix and have a nice lengthy talk about proper ettiquette.
Have you spoken with the third member about your complaints at all?
 
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#36
guy n. cognito said:
Are you certain that he did this intentionally? Maybe the retirement home did it?
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This.

We're booked at a few places by the same booking agent. My singer also does solo acoustic gigs with this guy, so every time we're booked as a band it's under the singers name rather than the band name. It's REALLY annoying to me, but it's the venue not my singer.

We also use an advertisement firm who promotes all of our/his stuff on Facebook. Rather than tag the band page, they just tag his personal page. That's getting brought up at the next band meeting...
 
#38
Dave W said:
This.

We're booked at a few places by the same booking agent. My singer also does solo acoustic gigs with this guy, so every time we're booked as a band it's under the singers name rather than the band name. It's REALLY annoying to me, but it's the venue not my singer.

We also use an advertisement firm who promotes all of our/his stuff on Facebook. Rather than tag the band page, they just tag his personal page. That's getting brought up at the next band meeting...
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No offense, but your booking agent and advertising firm sound like they are phoning it in. What are you paying them?
 
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