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I didn't read all the posts in this thread...
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Great. Y'all hear Relic's back putzin around OT? This thread's gonna be derailed with his nonsense in no time flat...
slobake
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Listen, that's all fine and good, but you're probably just going to eq out the fundamental in the studio anyway.
You'll only EQ out the fundamentals if you're using a Solid State amp. Anyone with a tube amp will still have their fundamentals there, strong and true. Well, mostly anyone, as long as they're using an Ampeg amp. Without an Ampeg all tube amp you're not going to get the rich and fully fleshed out fundamentals that you would otherwise get. Unless you're using a decent Markbass amp. Even then though, you've got to make sure that your EQ settings are set to maximize the fundamental output through differential harmonic registration. Hartke amps do a pretty decent job of this with their shape knobs, but like everything that's called "Shape" and comes in only one shape (knob shape, to be exact), I don't trust it.
But if you don't have the right tonewoods in you bass (or at least your tone block - TOTAL MUST HAVE!), you'll have a hollow sound coming out, regardless of how good or bad your pickups are. Making sure you've got the right tonewood for your appropriate fundamental is fundamental to getting a good sound out of your bass, good pickups, strings, amp or no.
That said though, if you've got a bad set of pickups in your bass, then you're going to be suffering in how much your fundamental gets picked up, regardless of what sort of fundamental your tone wood and tone block are tuned for (must tune the tone block). That's why it's important to make sure that your coils are wrapped the proper number of times to ensure a rich and robust harmonic resonance within the appropriately shaped crystal lattice of the electrical field generated by your pickups. Though ideally, your pickups' electrical field should create a vacuum space (similar to a tube), because the simple fact of the matter is that electrons don't survive as well in a rigidly structured crystal latticework as they do in a vacuum. There's just no other way to put it.
And make sure you're using really high quality, gold tipped, electrically double shielded cables that are specially tuned to give better low-end response through the entire spectrum of frequencies that it deals with. Something like a Monster Bass cable is probably to be recommended, and especially avoid, at all costs, the Monster Guitar cables. They're tuned for guitars and will not give you the best bass sound for whatever genre you're playing, especially metal.
If you keep these tips in mind, you're going to sound really good when you play, and your natural playing ability (which is naturally top-notch, since you're on talkbass.com and we're all friendly here), will shine through and you'll quickly reach the pinnacle of bass playing excellence.
And as always, remember, there is no "Best Bass for Metal". They're all equally good. Except for the P and J-basses. Those things are crap, especially if they're made by Fender.
For those who can't be bothered, here's the TL;DR version:
You'll only EQ out the fundamentals if you're using a Solid State amp. Anyone with a tube amp will still have their fundamentals there, strong and true. Well, mostly anyone, as long as they're using an Ampeg amp. Without an Ampeg all tube amp you're not going to get the rich and fully fleshed out fundamentals that you would otherwise get. Unless you're using a decent Markbass amp. Even then though, you've got to make sure that your EQ settings are set to maximize the fundamental output through differential harmonic registration. Hartke amps do a pretty decent job of this with their shape knobs, but like everything that's called "Shape" and comes in only one shape (knob shape, to be exact), I don't trust it.
But if you don't have the right tonewoods in you bass (or at least your tone block - TOTAL MUST HAVE!), you'll have a hollow sound coming out, regardless of how good or bad your pickups are. Making sure you've got the right tonewood for your appropriate fundamental is fundamental to getting a good sound out of your bass, good pickups, strings, amp or no.
That said though, if you've got a bad set of pickups in your bass, then you're going to be suffering in how much your fundamental gets picked up, regardless of what sort of fundamental your tone wood and tone block are tuned for (must tune the tone block). That's why it's important to make sure that your coils are wrapped the proper number of times to ensure a rich and robust harmonic resonance within the appropriately shaped crystal lattice of the electrical field generated by your pickups. Though ideally, your pickups' electrical field should create a vacuum space (similar to a tube), because the simple fact of the matter is that electrons don't survive as well in a rigidly structured crystal latticework as they do in a vacuum. There's just no other way to put it.
And make sure you're using really high quality, gold tipped, electrically double shielded cables that are specially tuned to give better low-end response through the entire spectrum of frequencies that it deals with. Something like a Monster Bass cable is probably to be recommended, and especially avoid, at all costs, the Monster Guitar cables. They're tuned for guitars and will not give you the best bass sound for whatever genre you're playing, especially metal.
If you keep these tips in mind, you're going to sound really good when you play, and your natural playing ability (which is naturally top-notch, since you're on talkbass.com and we're all friendly here), will shine through and you'll quickly reach the pinnacle of bass playing excellence.
And as always, remember, there is no "Best Bass for Metal". They're all equally good. Except for the P and J-basses. Those things are crap, especially if they're made by Fender.
But if you don't have the right tonewoods in you bass (or at least your tone block - TOTAL MUST HAVE!), you'll have a hollow sound coming out, regardless of how good or bad your pickups are. Making sure you've got the right tonewood for your appropriate fundamental is fundamental to getting a good sound out of your bass, good pickups, strings, amp or no.
That said though, if you've got a bad set of pickups in your bass, then you're going to be suffering in how much your fundamental gets picked up, regardless of what sort of fundamental your tone wood and tone block are tuned for (must tune the tone block). That's why it's important to make sure that your coils are wrapped the proper number of times to ensure a rich and robust harmonic resonance within the appropriately shaped crystal lattice of the electrical field generated by your pickups. Though ideally, your pickups' electrical field should create a vacuum space (similar to a tube), because the simple fact of the matter is that electrons don't survive as well in a rigidly structured crystal latticework as they do in a vacuum. There's just no other way to put it.
And make sure you're using really high quality, gold tipped, electrically double shielded cables that are specially tuned to give better low-end response through the entire spectrum of frequencies that it deals with. Something like a Monster Bass cable is probably to be recommended, and especially avoid, at all costs, the Monster Guitar cables. They're tuned for guitars and will not give you the best bass sound for whatever genre you're playing, especially metal.
If you keep these tips in mind, you're going to sound really good when you play, and your natural playing ability (which is naturally top-notch, since you're on talkbass.com and we're all friendly here), will shine through and you'll quickly reach the pinnacle of bass playing excellence.
And as always, remember, there is no "Best Bass for Metal". They're all equally good. Except for the P and J-basses. Those things are crap, especially if they're made by Fender.
For those who can't be bothered, here's the TL;DR version:
You'll only EQ out the fundamentals if you're using a Solid State amp. Anyone with a tube amp will still have their fundamentals there, strong and true. Well, mostly anyone, as long as they're using an Ampeg amp. Without an Ampeg all tube amp you're not going to get the rich and fully fleshed out fundamentals that you would otherwise get. Unless you're using a decent Markbass amp. Even then though, you've got to make sure that your EQ settings are set to maximize the fundamental output through differential harmonic registration. Hartke amps do a pretty decent job of this with their shape knobs, but like everything that's called "Shape" and comes in only one shape (knob shape, to be exact), I don't trust it.
But if you don't have the right tonewoods in you bass (or at least your tone block - TOTAL MUST HAVE!), you'll have a hollow sound coming out, regardless of how good or bad your pickups are. Making sure you've got the right tonewood for your appropriate fundamental is fundamental to getting a good sound out of your bass, good pickups, strings, amp or no.
That said though, if you've got a bad set of pickups in your bass, then you're going to be suffering in how much your fundamental gets picked up, regardless of what sort of fundamental your tone wood and tone block are tuned for (must tune the tone block). That's why it's important to make sure that your coils are wrapped the proper number of times to ensure a rich and robust harmonic resonance within the appropriately shaped crystal lattice of the electrical field generated by your pickups. Though ideally, your pickups' electrical field should create a vacuum space (similar to a tube), because the simple fact of the matter is that electrons don't survive as well in a rigidly structured crystal latticework as they do in a vacuum. There's just no other way to put it.
And make sure you're using really high quality, gold tipped, electrically double shielded cables that are specially tuned to give better low-end response through the entire spectrum of frequencies that it deals with. Something like a Monster Bass cable is probably to be recommended, and especially avoid, at all costs, the Monster Guitar cables. They're tuned for guitars and will not give you the best bass sound for whatever genre you're playing, especially metal.
If you keep these tips in mind, you're going to sound really good when you play, and your natural playing ability (which is naturally top-notch, since you're on talkbass.com and we're all friendly here), will shine through and you'll quickly reach the pinnacle of bass playing excellence.
And as always, remember, there is no "Best Bass for Metal". They're all equally good. Except for the P and J-basses. Those things are crap, especially if they're made by Fender.
I can't stand the genre of music you guys are enthusiastically discussing. It's so dumb and the fans look stupid.
Ya'know, I haven't read this thread, and neither has John Turner, but when he does ALL of you suckers in in for a banination.
slobake
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He banned someone in this thread for calling him John "Bachman" Turner and then omitting the "Overdrive" portion. Apparently he's displeased by incomplete nicknames.
I don't want to get in to politics or religion but...
The first cell phone?
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Wow, I am stunned by the courage that must have taken OP. Hopefully one day that won't even matter. Mad props.
Noones driving this bus, its in a ditch, and i totally disagree with all yalls fundamental harmonization frequency manipulation or somesuch ignoramus nonsesical claptrap hippity hoppity easters on its way fender is overrated whoooey, your all fired, who hired ya anyway,, ziggy stardust and the apples in cars
.....YEAH!!!
.....YEAH!!!
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