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I don't think I like my new head

dude,,, you asked me & others a million & one questions on here about the LH1000 before you bought it

now here it is 2 months later & you're doing the exact same thing again

here's a thought,, quit asking all the questions & actually go out & play a few & buy the flavor of this week


:)


good luck to ya,, & your mom



About 2-3 months ago, I bought my first head/cab (Hartke LH1000/Ampeg SVT-410HE), and after this time, I have come to realize I don't like my head, it's something about it, I can get an awesome clean tone out of it, but I feel it's just not doing its job. I really wish it had an EQ, instead of just the bass/treble/mid knobs, and I wish it had a gain knob.


See, I'm only 15, so getting a new head for me isn't like it is for you guys. It's going to take some convincing for Mom (laugh all you want) to let me get a new one, because she doesn't understand much about this stuff.


So my question is.. What's a good head for me to get that has an EQ (all the little slidy things are what I'm talking about), has a Gain control, sounds good, and is around $700-750ish CAD.

I was looking at the Ampeg SVT-450H and the Ampeg B2RE. (What you recommend me doesn't have to be Ampeg, it can be whatever)

Thanks,
Josh
 
TB has realy become a hardcore bashing, troll calling "old fart" zone lately. I thought you guys were supposed to support the new generation of players, not put us down for out parents supporting us. :scowl:


IMHO...

Supporting a player, giving HONEST input on a question, and blindly telling an un-knowing player to go out and buy something different are all very different things.

Many people are WAY to quick to rush to tell someone who obviously doesn't know the ins and outs of his rig to go out and sell it and get something different. Truth is, if he goes out and gets something different he's going to run into the same problems he has with this rig, plus very likely a few new ones.

IMHO he needs to get out and play a bunch of different bass amps and get a WAY better idea what he's looking for and a WAY better working knowledge of what bass amps do, don't do and 'CAN DO' given correct understanding of the amp and EQ settings.

I've only briefly perused the thread, but I did not see where he's answered what bass he's playing through the amp he 'doesn't like'.


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What about a GK 700RB-II or a 1001RB-II?

It doesn't have the slider EQ, but it is easier to use, and sounds better IMHO. I'm 15, and I have a 1001RB-II, 410RBX, and a 115RBX, and I doubt I'll need another amp for the rest of my life. I paid for it all entirely myself too, so I got no making up to do to my parents either.:smug:
 
For $69 you might try out this pedal to go with your amp
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I've only briefly perused the thread, but I did not see where he's answered what bass he's playing through the amp he 'doesn't like'.


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I've tried a MIM & MIA Fender P (friends), some random Ibanez (when I tried the cab out for the first time, but different head), MIJ Fender Jazz, Squier P (both mine)

For $69 you might try out this pedal to go with your amp
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Funny, I was actually about to get one of those, but I guess they don't make them anymore. And I sent some messages to TBer's about them on the classifieds, but still no replies.
 
I have come to realize I don't like my head, it's something about it, I can get an awesome clean tone out of it, but I feel it's just not doing its job.



Every piece of advice you are likely to get is completely useless unless you first figure out just what the job is you want your amp to do.

Are you in a band? If so, what type of music do you play? Do you gig? How big are the gigs? What type of bass do you have, and what pickups and strings do you use?

I see from your profile that your influences are Geezer Butler and John Paul Jones. :cool::bassist::cool: Geezer is what got me into playing bass and I can tell you that if you are hoping to get some similar kind of tone out of your setup you have a very difficult job ahead of you - but not impossible. If you are trying to get that "vintage" metal tone then you are probably right to ditch the Hartke amp. Or maybe you're not after that at all but want something modern/funky/jazzy/brutal/warm/harsh or whatever.

I think you'll find that if you can do a good job answering these questions about what you are specifically after in your tone, you can get some very good information out of the veterans here on TB. :)
 
About 2-3 months ago, I bought my first head/cab (Hartke LH1000/Ampeg SVT-410HE), and after this time, I have come to realize I don't like my head, it's something about it, I can get an awesome clean tone out of it, but I feel it's just not doing its job. I really wish it had an EQ, instead of just the bass/treble/mid knobs, and I wish it had a gain knob.


See, I'm only 15, so getting a new head for me isn't like it is for you guys. It's going to take some convincing for Mom (laugh all you want) to let me get a new one, because she doesn't understand much about this stuff.


So my question is.. What's a good head for me to get that has an EQ (all the little slidy things are what I'm talking about), has a Gain control, sounds good, and is around $700-750ish CAD.

I was looking at the Ampeg SVT-450H and the Ampeg B2RE. (What you recommend me doesn't have to be Ampeg, it can be whatever)

Thanks,
Josh

You've got a good amp. My experience tells me that you'll get further toward your tone goals by changing your speaker cabinet or your strings than getting a different amp. After over 40 years of playing (and owning literally TONS of equipment), I've learned that the tone is either "there" or it isn't. If it isn't, graphic EQ isn't going to help you!

Try different strings. That makes a HUGE difference!

Good luck,
Greg

PS Get older slowly!
 
You have every right not to like your current rig regardless of your age & I cared just as much about my sound (if not more) when I was 15 as I do now. Your amp does have a real EQ & if it had been designed with a multi band graphic, it probably wouldn't sound a whole lot different. You have a rig that's loud and clear - not much else is going to be expected of you @ age 15. Also keep in mind that your 'sound' is going to be different in every venue you play and at different locations of every room. The sound you hear standing in front of your amp in your house is NOT the same sound the crowd is going to hear- 95% of them will basically hear your bass in the mix & beyond that not give a hoot.
If you absolutely don't like your head, sorry but I don't like it either. I tried one a few months ago after hearing rave reviews & found it loud & clear but dry & sterile to my ears. I tried the Markbass LMII the same day & thought it was the best bass sound I ever heard & I don't think anything touches it anywhere near it's $600 price. I played the new LMIII @ NAMM in January and it has some improvements that are worth waiting for - you may want to hold on to the LH1000 for a while until the LMIII comes out. If you like distortion, sorry I can't help you with that - I've spent my whole life trying to keep any distortion from any source out of my sound.There is also a LMIII 800 watter coming out, but I think it's digital power section will change the tone. Be careful when you purchase at your age becuase buying and selling constantly won't be possible - make sure something really wows you before you hit the go button.
All this is IMO and IME - I'm in a bit of a crappy mood 2nite so I really don't want to hear it if I ruffled any feathers, expecially after reading some of the posts to this young player that is just looking for advise from us.
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Good Luck from Las Vegas.

Mate this is an excellent reply, and good to see that someone is prepared to stand up for that young fella, the majority of users on this forum (some should educate themselves as to what a forum actually is)... are spot on but I have noticed that there are also those that have their heads stuck firmly up their own arses.
 
Every piece of advice you are likely to get is completely useless unless you first figure out just what the job is you want your amp to do.

Are you in a band? If so, what type of music do you play? Do you gig? How big are the gigs? What type of bass do you have, and what pickups and strings do you use?

Yes, I'm in a band. We play Rock/Alternative Rock. We gig about 2-5 times a month. Gigs are medium size, around 100ish + people, depending when it is. Bass is MIJ Fender J with stock pickups and EB Hybrids and Squier P (I know, I know) has Bassline QP's and Hybrids.

I can't really explain what I want it to do, which I know pretty much makes it impossible for people to tell me how to do it. But, it's just a sound I want to make, I'll know it when it happens (you guys probably want to break my legs, don't you?). This amp is plenty loud (except when I'm not using the speakon, so it's only 225 watts, but it doesn't seem that loud at all)
 
Just had to chime in-I've been doing this long enough to know that the tone comes from 1)You 2)Your bass 3)Your amp.
I have spent many, many years/dollars chasing great sound. We all have, or will. Bottom line is, if you can play, play the bass unplugged, in a really quiet place. Does it sound different that you wish it did? Yes? Then you have the wrong bass, probably. Gotta start at the beginning of the signal chain, my friend. Can't polish a turd.
 
yo bassmasta, are you sure its the head? that hartke is a monster compared to the 410he, you might be asking too much of it with 1000 watts.

I'd recommend shooting around the classifieds around here and seeing if you come across an avatar b410 neo, which is a 1000 watt handling cab, to better suit the LH1000.

Also, I might suggest trying out a couple pedals like a sansamp BDDI to mess around and see what kind of tone you WANT before you just grab something.

When I was your age I had to talk my mom into letting me buy my first rig, which was a hartke that served me well for about three years, once i got a real job and some money, I started a tone hunt that I'm still chasing.

Also, hang on to your gear until you're playing with a band. You might find that you like your tone in a band situation. don't be willy nilly, you might regret getting rid of that head.
 
re: Blue Tube pedal
From what I read, Genz Benz bought Tube Works (original manuf. of the pedal), then stopped production on the Tube Works products.

You'll have to look for the Blue Tube 901 pedal or rack mount unit (903) used. There have been some for sale on TB.
Here's one on Craigslist right now: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

There a bunch of pedals/rack mounts that have pre-amp tubes in them.

Here's a TB link that may help:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-169603.html