i have a CRAZY design to talk about

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by lurking_bassist, Jun 28, 2008.

  1. lurking_bassist


    Jun 28, 2008
    this will be a very long scale 9 string bass/guitar.

    going with a flat surface graphite neck-through design.

    string spacing will be as narrow as possible is not adjustable, but i would love to use individual string tuner bridges for each string. i have seen single bridges but none i have found are "tuner bridges". if anyone has seen any out there i would love to see it... if not i guess i could CAD one up my self.

    any thoughts on th BRIDGE?
  2. lurking_bassist


    Jun 28, 2008
    i think i will try winding my own rail style pickup. not much chance of finding a 9 string pole coil... maybe i could do the 8 pole offset though?

    thoughts on PICKUPS?
  3. lurking_bassist


    Jun 28, 2008
    i am still kinda drawn between exotic wood or some new age composition body.

    any opinions on BODY physics?
  4. adam.beauchene

    adam.beauchene Commercial User

    Dec 31, 2007
    Technician at NS Design
    Mustafa? :bag:
  5. Yvarg

    Yvarg Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Lake Forest, CA
    Haha, my thoughts as well, barnaclebeau.

    How long of a scale are you talking about? You may have trouble finding strings for rather extreme lengths. My d'addario double bass strings seem to have about enough length for a 46" scale, but you will only be able to find from low B to high C.

    As far as pickups go, you may want to try something like this: http://www.windworld.com/products/lollar.htm
  6. Dirk Diggler

    Dirk Diggler Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Anytown USA
    ABM I think are the only ones to make that kind of a individual tuner/bridge I think, mostly used on headless basses.
    Go for wood, much easier to work with than graphite and other unnatural materials. Well at least until all the good looking woods disappear. :)
    Good luck,
  7. powerbass


    Nov 2, 2006
    western MA
  8. asad137


    Jan 18, 2007
  9. pilotjones


    Nov 8, 2001
    Greg Holmes of GK Services had some narrow-spacing ETS single tuner/bridges on hand about a year ago. You could see if he's still got them around.

    If he's still got them, hopefully you can get a deal. ETS is more reasonable than ABM, but nine is a lot of tuner/bridges.
  10. Triad

    Triad Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jul 4, 2006
    As far as I know Status Graphite and ETS are almost the only companies offering this stuff...
  11. pilotjones


    Nov 8, 2001
    Aren't the Status units made by ABM? Or am I remembering wrong?
  12. lurking_bassist


    Jun 28, 2008
    yeah, after giving it some thought i am going more towards a shorter scale and maybe more strings... going to put a headstock on the neck to go with the hipshot individual bridges and possibly going piezo on each bridge to eliminate cross/talk and add the midi option.

    i think i will start with an off-the-shelf 4 string neck to get the carbon graphite body design in the working stages.

    i love exotic woods as much as everyone else in here... its just that i am going for a specific look and feel with the carbon-fiber/graphite-neck combo. i think all you well established Luthiers will appreciate me leaving the gorgeous wood for you to make the super exotics out of, right?
  13. cnltb


    May 28, 2005
    As to bridges;
    I'd simply call ETS and have them make a bridge for you.
    ABM is no more as far as I know.
    Pickupwise I recon you can get pretty much anything made.
    Bassculture is one of many companies that make custom pickups.
  14. powerbass


    Nov 2, 2006
    western MA
    if you are thinking of using a piezo bridge Hipshot now makes the Type A bridge w/piezo saddles that work w/the Ghost system (Graphtech). This is easy to install, has it's own preamp and Graphtech makes a compatible midi thingy http://www.graphtech.com/products.html?CategoryID=2
    Individual string adjustment/intonation is a plus. I'ld go w/the push/pull dark/bright volume pot.
  15. radii


    Feb 16, 2007
    I believe ABM is back under new ownership. Check their site:

  16. ewimsatt


    Jul 1, 2008
    Nashville, TN
    Pickup Maker, Luthier, and Repairman, Wimsatt Instruments
  17. cnltb


    May 28, 2005
    Yeah i saw it as well, once i had been here on tb yesterday.
  18. Stealth


    Feb 5, 2008
    Zagreb, Croatia
    Are tuning bridges supposed to be that expensive? I mean, $65 per tuner... :eyebrow:
  19. pilotjones


    Nov 8, 2001
    I can say that the ETS units that Greg was offering a year ago were in that neighborhood.

    If you get ETS to make a 9-wide single piece tuner bridge instead of individual finger bridge/tuners, it might be a lot cheaper.

    Atlansia's units are very high priced, also.
  20. lurking_bassist


    Jun 28, 2008
    since starting this thread and seeing all the GREAT ideas that ALL of you have given... the evolution of this design has taken some amazing turns.

    a few would be looking at Khaler (of all places) for the bridge... in my lameness i had not even realized they were back in business 'til i started looking into bridges. so now i am thinking about their 8 string tremolo bridge. with that i will need a headstock w/ tuners but i think i can come up with a good design. i am still wanting a MosesGraphite fingerboard, but i might be going with all carbon-fiber neck-through...

    a recent thought... BALSA WOOD!

    i can do a hand-lay-up design of carbon fiber over balsa wood. do my shape in balsa wood, then form my carbon fiber over the balsa for rigidity and structural integrity... i am thinking that it would be great for my shaping and coupled with the carbon fiber would make an interesting sound.

    obviously no one has ever used balsa wood for a guitar before, but this would now fall into the realms of feasibility.