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I just want a simple amp.

You're not allowed to tell him that. He'll yell at you and tell you to get out if you do. He has very specific rules on how to respond to his posts and don't even think about violating them!


I just want a useful response to the question posed. What you are doing amounts to the same thing as when people go to the effects forum to say they don't like effects. Or walking up to someone you don't know and saying, "Your hair cut is stupid and your shirt is ugly."

Maybe I like to build my sound on the floor or in my hands.
Maybe I don't like the taste of Ampeg dick or the sound of Fender basses.
Maybe I do things completely different from you because that's the way I like doing things.
If you take the time to listen to any of my recordings you will find that you and I have nearly opposite views on what sounds good.

In any case if you don't have anything to move the point forward in this thread, start your own thread about how not having tone controls is stupid. Then you can go on about it and it doesn't waste space in my thread.

For those of you actually providing valid information and helpful recommendations, thank you for properly responding in a beneficial manner. Posts like yours help, and that is appreciated.
 
One of these perhaps?
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I'm truly sorry. Couldn't help it.
 
You've had some good answers to your question.... and this is the only contribution to the discussion you have to offer????

What about a DI with a Bergantino IP112 or 310?

Man, I don't have anything to add.
That's why I asked the question. A no control amp system is totally new to me.
I'm here trying to learn, not get hassled by people who think there is only one way.

I'll check out your recommendation, thanks.
 
I just want a useful response to the question posed. What you are doing amounts to the same thing as when people go to the effects forum to say they don't like effects. Or walking up to someone you don't know and saying, "Your hair cut is stupid and your shirt is ugly."

Maybe I like to build my sound on the floor or in my hands.
Maybe I don't like the taste of Ampeg dick or the sound of Fender basses.
Maybe I do things completely different from you because that's the way I like doing things.
If you take the time to listen to any of my recordings you will find that you and I have nearly opposite views on what sounds good.

In any case if you don't have anything to move the point forward in this thread, start your own thread about how not having tone controls is stupid. Then you can go on about it and it doesn't waste space in my thread.

For those of you actually providing valid information and helpful recommendations, thank you for properly responding in a beneficial manner. Posts like yours help, and that is appreciated.

Your thread IS A PUBLIC THREAD FOR ANY TB MEMBER TO LEAVE COMMENTS. If you want to rant that fellow TB members don't give you the precise information you want then rant on. Keep in mind a public forum is what it is. Any member is free to comment until such time as you close the thread.
 
Man, I don't have anything to add.
That's why I asked the question. A no control amp system is totally new to me.
I'm here trying to learn, not get hassled by people who think there is only one way.

I'll check out your recommendation, thanks.

A guy I know made these special amps for Phil Lesh. It has been many years since I have seen Andy but he did have two of these PIE amps (see bottom of linked page) in his garage back when my brother an Andy were designing and building a few Class A 100 watt monoblock amps. Those were killer amps and you know how much Phil and the Dead were into great tone, right? :cool:

http://dozin.com/godzilla/amp.htm
 
I thought Steve and Mr. Foxen has the most sensible, straightforward solution at the very beginning of this thread: Use a PA amp. Most of those have almost no controls, and gobs of power at some of the best Watts/Dollar ratio on the market.

And if you don't want to sound like crap, you can use any preamp to add back in all the controls you want! ;)
 
God can someone just ban jimmy, he's always venturing into threads he knows he's not going to agree with, and posts anyway, looking for trouble.

I don't think it is Jimmy specifically that is guilty of this, it seems to be an Internet trait in general.

OP: "I'm looking for an X to do Y"

Poster 1: "X sucks, and Y is a stupid idea".

Poster 2: "OP would be better off with Z, I've used Z for years".

Poster 3: "OP is a moron".

Poster 1: "Z sucks, and OP wasn't asking about that anyway".

Poster 3: "OP doesn't know what is best for them".

Poster 4: "Allow OP to spend their money as they see fit".

Poster 1, 2, 3: "But OP doesn't get it! I know more about this stuff then they do! I was there first! I was playing clubs in the '80s when OP was in diapers! OP is a troll".


The thread then descends into people accusing each other of 'trolling' (ie, holding a different opinion), pictures of cats and terrible jokes. OP never gets a clear answer. Rinse. Repeat.
 
God can someone just ban jimmy, he's always venturing into threads he knows he's not going to agree with, and posts anyway, looking for trouble.
Thank you. Yes, God forbid someone point out a potential downside to an idea. You're right. I should be banned, trying to be somewhat helpful and point out a potential downside. But don't worry...when you start Oozmanbass, I'll stay far far away from it.
 
This is my main rig, one of these:

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into one of these:

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Yes, there's more than one knob. But of the four knobs, three of them just change the volume, without any overdrive or anything, so no tonal changes. The fourth knob is actually a six way switch.

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In conjunction with the tone knob on my bass I use 3 as a subtle bass boost and 1 as a less subtle bass boost. Otherwise I leave it switched off. Most bassists are very confused when they share my rig! ;)
 
ah, a 1 knob bass amp would be amazing!!

relying on your hands and bass to do all the work is a pretty cool concept as far as I'm concerned.

some of my best guitar tones ( not in the bedroom but real world circumstances ) came from a vox ac30bm.

i always thought, Damn, i wish someone would do this with a bass amp!

actually now that i think about it!!
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i don't think you'll find better than this although it will need a kick in the front like a [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
 
What if the amp with just a volume knob sounds like crap? Then you're helpless, whereas if you have knobs, you can turn them and get a better sound.


Get off Jimmy's case! His point is valid and he wasn't being rude.

If each venue were built the same, the pa wouldn't need all those knobs. Flat flat flat would cause no sonic problems. But venues aren't.

If you are through the pa the sound man is going to make the band sound good with no booms and screeches.

If you have no pa and need to carry the house, you may need to cut here and add a little there. Just a couple of knobs is all that's needed and that's his point. Set them flat and carve the output to the to stage/ room.

OP, you could have just ignored Jimmy's comment but you didn't. There's drawbacks to every idea and if you are not prepared to hear about them, you'll learn nothing. You said you're trying to learn.