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I know I'm gonna get crap for this one!!!!!!!
- Thread starter TheFrizzleFry
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I was going to reply to this, but I was busy replying to the 58 other "Jaco is(n't) the Greatest" threads. If I keep replying to all these threads, I will soon beat JT out for posts.
...finally, someone else has listened & commented on this disturbing piece of music. Is it "supposed to make one go mad"? Yeah, I think it is; you have hit the nail on the head, Art.
The tune sounds like "schizophrenia"(not the Wayne Shorter composition, either!).
Agreed, Bruce...100%.
I definitely, without a doubt view Jaco as a groover! His roots are R&B, NOT Jazz; he's also into Latin/Afro-Cuban music...that's all groove. Now, realize(as I'm sure you already do), there's more than one way to groove.
***Punching In***
('Cause I finally read the rest of the posts)-
The funkiest Jaco I've heard is "Barbary Coast"(not "Come On, Come Over"...that's my .02).
IMO, Bootsy's Funk/R&B with James Brown ain't that far removed from Jaco's Funk; it's 1/16th note, syncopated, stacatto finger funk...what's the difference?
About locking & playing in the pocket with the drums; that's fun(did it for years in Top-40 dance bands), yet...thank God I lucked out & started playing with other drummers who schooled me on playing off/against their stuff. Yeah, it may be more "open"(ie NOT totally "locked")...regardless, it can still groove(similiar to William Kennedy/Jimmy Haslip; Gary Willis/Dennis Chambers or Kirk Covington; Anthony Jackson/Dennis Chambers/Steve Jordan; Jamaladeen Tacuma/G. Calvin Wesley or Cornell Rochester, even Carter Beuford/Stefan Lessard, yaddayadda.
...finally, someone else has listened & commented on this disturbing piece of music. Is it "supposed to make one go mad"? Yeah, I think it is; you have hit the nail on the head, Art.
The tune sounds like "schizophrenia"(not the Wayne Shorter composition, either!).
Agreed, Bruce...100%.
..."OK", my last post of the night(too many coffees watching my Mets suck & Nomo no-no-ing the O's)-
Anyway, I don't think I've ever heard a sax player "diss" Bird(approx 50+ years after the fact); Coltrane(approx 40+ years); same goes for trumpet players & Louis Armstrong(70+ years?)...etc.
So, why is it that some guitarists "diss" Hendrix? Some Rock musicians "diss" The Beatles?
Some bassists "diss" Jaco?
While we're at it, would anyone like to "diss" Jimmy Blanton?
john turner
You don't want to do that. Trust me.
Originally posted by Gard
I'll tell you what irks me, when someone sees me playing fretless and says I'm a "Jaco-clone" without listening at all. First off, I don't want to sound like Jaco, secondly even if I did it would be almost impossible!
i know a particularly famous someone who would say just that, about everybody who plays fretless.
even if it's a fretless 7 string played slap-style. "the fretless bass has an intrinsic tone, and that is jaco's sound."there i go, stirring up the ole' pot again.
-------------------------------------------------Originally posted by john turner
i know a particularly famous someone who would say just that, about everybody who plays fretless.
there i go, stirring up the ole' pot again.
Hey there JT
I was at a friends house last night and he pulled out an old John McLauchlan <sp> album from about 1969 - and who should be playing fretless but our good friend who shall remain nameless.
And yes it did sound bloody good
Cheers
Dean
Someone saying anyone is the "greatest" anything does not bother me in the least...even if they tagged it with "...and you must agree with me".
Why doesn't it bother me...because I don't have to agree. It appears that "the greatest" and "my favorite" tend to be synonomous.
So what?
You like what you like...cool. Some people seem to take offense to that as if "my opinion can beat your opinion". That's what I find silly.
If someone thinks someone is the greatest or has a favorite, here's an easy way to deal with it (I think)
Let 'em.
Why doesn't it bother me...because I don't have to agree. It appears that "the greatest" and "my favorite" tend to be synonomous.
So what?
You like what you like...cool. Some people seem to take offense to that as if "my opinion can beat your opinion". That's what I find silly.
If someone thinks someone is the greatest or has a favorite, here's an easy way to deal with it (I think
)Let 'em.
On the technique aspect I have no comment, except that I think Jaco was the first bass guitarist to show you can have (and successfully execute) a concept our instrument. He was the first of a very selected few. Few musicians (and far less bassists) merit comparison with John Coltrane.
I'm not into deciding who is the "greatest" player, but I think few would disagree that he was the greatest bassist-composer since Mingus. As an Electric bassist, the first (and maybe the only) great electric bassist composer.
'nuff said.
Will C.
I'm not into deciding who is the "greatest" player, but I think few would disagree that he was the greatest bassist-composer since Mingus. As an Electric bassist, the first (and maybe the only) great electric bassist composer.
'nuff said.
Will C.
