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I re-cut the "Begin Again" movie.

KohanMike

Los Angeles, Beverly Grove West, near Cedars-Sinai
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The other day there was a post mentioning the bass Mark Ruffalo used in the movie "Begin Again." I love that movie, but I always question why it was edited the way it was, jumping back and forth in time. This evening it happened to be on cable, so I watched the copy I have in my library. I then decided that I'm going to re-cut it in chronological order and see how it plays.

Before I retired, I was in show business in Hollywood from 1970 to 2002, from TV usher to production assistant to union set dresser and assistant prop master. Also, in the mid 1980s after working on "Witness" and encouraged by the director Peter Weir, I took three years of screenwriting classes at the Hollywood branch of the American Film Institute, learning how scripts are put together, which made me realize why I liked certain movies and not others.

I was also a photographer in between production jobs, and now the staff photographer for the Los Angeles Lawyers Philharmonic. With that, I dabble in videography as well, editing on my MacStudio and Final Cut Pro.

I did the re-cut this evening and was pleasantly surprised how well "Begin Again" worked in chronological order. A good screenplay hits milestones at specific times, at 30 minutes, the end of the first act, an event happens that moves the story. At 60 minutes, in the middle of the second act, the two main characters have an emotional encounter. At 90 minutes, the start of the third act, an event that moves the story to it's conclusion. In chronological order,"Begin Again" hits all those milestones perfectly.

The first change I made was in act one, meeting Mark Ruffalo first and his dilemma, intercut with Keira Knightly and Adam Levine coming to New York, and her meeting old friend James Cordon. Then to Keira realizing Adam cheated and left him, to James Cordon taking her in, then getting her up in a bar to sing an open mic where a half drunk Mark Ruffalo is intrigued by her and fantasizes the instruments behind her playing an arrangement. The end of act one is him offering to sign her.

The other change was re-doing the order of getting the musicians and rehearsing. After the Jaguar recording studio scene, Mark introduces the violin and cello siblings, then goes to the pianist, then cut to just them rehearsing, then going to Cee Lo Green, getting a bass player and drummer, then cut to all of them rehearsing.

I honestly don't understand why they put it out of order, I don't see that it did anything useful to the telling the story.
 
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I am also a fan of that movie. I suspect I am not the only one here. I suspect a few of us would be interested in seeing the chronological cut. Since no money would be made, perhaps you could see your way clear to making it available as an educational opportunity.
My concern is the statement at the end of every movie. I'd rather leave it as a written description of the changes i made.

I was thinking of asking the writer/director John Carney about showing the cut, but he made some disparaging statements about Keira Knightly not being a 'real' actor that he had to retract later. Which is odd because as I analyze the original cut, it seems like it was an effort to make Greta the main character, but in my opinion, Dan (Mark Ruffalo) is the main character, especially because he has a greater arch to fulfill. Greta is the catalyst to get him there, who also has an arch to fulfill.

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Oooh oooh oooh! do Memento, Pulp Fiction, and The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button next!!!
Pulp Fiction is certainly is a culprit of jumping time, why I didn't like it that much. Never saw Momento, but if it time jumps, not interested. I also didn't like Benjamin Button, probably for the same reason. I re-cut Begin Again because I really liked it, even with the time jumps, and now I can watch it for myself chronologically. Let me add that flashbacks are perfectly acceptable when they fit properly, but I don't consider the cuts in Begin Again and Pulp fiction flashbacks.
 
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The other day there was a post mentioning the bass Mark Ruffalo used in the movie "Begin Again." I love that movie, but I always question why it was edited the way it was, jumping back and forth in time. This evening it happened to be on cable, so I watched the copy I have in my library. I then decided that I'm going to re-cut it in chronological order and see how it plays.

Before I retired, I was in show business in Hollywood from 1970 to 2002, from TV usher to production assistant to union set dresser and assistant prop master. Also, in the mid 1980s after working on "Witness" and encouraged by the director Peter Weir, I took three years of screenwriting classes at the Hollywood branch of the American Film Institute, learning how scripts are put together, which made me realize why I liked certain movies and not others.

I was also a photographer in between production jobs, and now the staff photographer for the Los Angeles Lawyers Philharmonic. With that, I dabble in videography as well, editing on my MacStudio and Final Cut Pro.

I did the re-cut this evening and was pleasantly surprised how well "Begin Again" worked in chronological order. A good screenplay hits milestones at specific times, at 30 minutes, the end of the first act, an event happens that moves the story. At 60 minutes, in the middle of the second act, the two main characters have an emotional encounter. At 90 minutes, the start of the third act, an event that moves the story to it's conclusion. In chronological order,"Begin Again" hits all those milestones perfectly.

The first change I made was in act one, meeting Mark Ruffalo first and his dilemma, intercut with Keira Knightly and Adam Levine coming to New York, and her meeting old friend James Cordon. Then to Keira realizing Adam cheated and left him, to James Cordon taking her in, then getting her up in a bar to sing an open mic where a half drunk Mark Ruffalo is intrigued by her and fantasizes the instruments behind her playing an arrangement. The end of act one is him offering to sign her.

The other change was re-doing the order of getting the musicians and rehearsing. After the Jaguar recording studio scene, Mark introduces the violin and cello siblings, then goes to the pianist, then cut to just them rehearsing, then going to Cee Lo Green, getting a bass player and drummer, then cut to all of them rehearsing.

I honestly don't understand why they put it out of order, I don't see that it did anything useful to the telling the story.

Usually done with mixed success as an auteur artistic statement . There are of course exceptions where telling a story out of sequence works-Citizen Kane anyone? & maybe a few others.
 
As someone with zero experience in this industry, but as someone who has watched countless hours of films and TV shows for the past 50 years, I feel like I have some qualifications to offer an opinion here.
Movies or TV shows that jump around in time drive me nuts.
I agree with you @KohanMike about flashbacks when they fit properly.

-Mike
 
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