Speaker size alone has absolutely no bearing on what frequencies it can handle/reproduce.
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I want more BOOM! that thump!
- Thread starter acmmisfit
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Speaker size alone has absolutely no bearing on what frequencies it can handle/reproduce.
Yes. I don't get why anyone would want their sound to be "boomy". A nice, tight bottom end is so much cleaner and cuts through better. The word I like is thump and at least in my experience that comes from the nature of your attack on the string. And it does seem to be easier to get on a P bass.
Trying to understand.....
Doesn't Ampeg have 3 different versions of the 410HLF
The Classic, Neo and B-Series
and i was under the understanding that only the B series had more extended low end.
Are we talking about a classic or a B series here? or does this matter?
Also if you bought the cabinet used somebody might have swapped out the speakers to some cheapo garbage.
Not sure how often it happens 4x10 wise but i have heard a few 8x10's with cheap speakers. They never sound very good especially in the low end.
I think your amp should have enough power and EQ to give you plenty of low end.....can you test it with another cabinet?
Doesn't Ampeg have 3 different versions of the 410HLF
The Classic, Neo and B-Series
and i was under the understanding that only the B series had more extended low end.
Are we talking about a classic or a B series here? or does this matter?
Also if you bought the cabinet used somebody might have swapped out the speakers to some cheapo garbage.
Not sure how often it happens 4x10 wise but i have heard a few 8x10's with cheap speakers. They never sound very good especially in the low end.
I think your amp should have enough power and EQ to give you plenty of low end.....can you test it with another cabinet?
The first thing I'd do is leave the Sansamp at home, they're tone mediocre-izers. They can help turn crappy tone into acceptable tone but they also turn great tone into mediocre tone.
The second thing I'd do is think about my technique, and see if I can get the sound I want on the same bass through other amps. If yes, your amp is a problem (although it seems like quality gear so I find this unlikely, unless it's user-error). If no, the bass or your technique is the problem.
The third thing I'd consider is flatwound strings. I find myself liking rounds less and less and if boom is what you want, flats might just do the trick.
The second thing I'd do is think about my technique, and see if I can get the sound I want on the same bass through other amps. If yes, your amp is a problem (although it seems like quality gear so I find this unlikely, unless it's user-error). If no, the bass or your technique is the problem.
The third thing I'd consider is flatwound strings. I find myself liking rounds less and less and if boom is what you want, flats might just do the trick.
Problem is Blue, that this is a bad pairing. The 15 will never be able to compete with the efficiency, power handling and depth of a 4x10. It will always be a weak link in the system. It looks cool sure but actually is poor engineering.
To me, "boom" and "thump" are mutually exclusive. Boom implies an indistinct, notes-run-together sound while thump implies a punchy, percussive sound. Again, just IMHO. That said, I think for any given amp / cab combo, most of your control over boom vs. thump comes from your fingers.
Exactly! And look into removing the BDDI for right now and focus on the bass, head and cabinet.
Thump is a little hard to define. If you are looking for a thick bassy tone that people can hear and you hear - boost around 90-200hz. This will make a bass sound "thumpy".
In many cases, playing near the neck is the easiest way to get a thumpy tone when you do not want to touch your amp in the middle of a song.
15" loaded cabinets have a good amount of "thump" from 90hz to 150hz, VERY LITTLE below 80hz. So when you add a 15 and tell everyone your rig puts out WAYYY MORE LOW END, there is truth to that. But do not tell everyone it's massive low end below 90hz. A single 15 can not do that.
