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Ibanez SRFF805 or Ibanez SR Premium 1405E 5 string

Which one is better?


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My GAS FOR THE SRFF805 has cooled off because after comparing my Peavey Forum V to it, I think my Forum's B string is very competitive with the Ibanez. I also know that my Forum is more versatile tonally since it can get dark and very bright. Both basses have very strong midranges.
 
If it's such a limited market, why are Dingwall Combustions backordered 6 and 7 months? Why do used Dingwalls sell so quickly?
I would think the Ibby FF would be even easier to resell because of the shorter scale and less radical fanning.

I agree. I think is a great bass. If didn't already have a bass that did the same thing, I would buy it.
 
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If it's such a limited market, why are Dingwall Combustions backordered 6 and 7 months? Why do used Dingwalls sell so quickly?
I would think the Ibby FF would be even easier to resell because of the shorter scale and less radical fanning.


1) 6 to 7 month lead time for a low high volume (or under staffed) builder is not out of the ordinary.

2) Not sure if every Dingwall sells quickly. I've followed some on eBay that were there for months. Seen some on TB that seemed to take a while. Others may sell quickly because they have a committed but narrow customer base pursuing a particular model but wanting to spend less than a new one.

3) Yes, I agree the Ibby FF would sell faster than a Dingwall, probably more for the price difference. But again ... how many standard basses are sold compared to FF basses? New or used? Got be 10 to 1 at least. There are reasons for that starting with a limited market.
 
1) 6 to 7 month lead time for a low high volume (or under staffed) builder is not out of the ordinary.
The Combustion models are semi-mass produced in an overseas factory.

2) Not sure if every Dingwall sells quickly. I've followed some on eBay that were there for months. Seen some on TB that seemed to take a while. Others may sell quickly because they have a committed but narrow customer base pursuing a particular model but wanting to spend less than a new one.
Again, I was talking about the Combustions, which seem to sell very quickly...and for a high percentage of their original cost.
At least it seemed that way when I was shopping for one.

3) Yes, I agree the Ibby FF would sell faster than a Dingwall, probably more for the price difference. But again ... how many standard basses are sold compared to FF basses? New or used? Got be 10 to 1 at least. There are reasons for that starting with a limited market.
a. There isn't very much difference in price between the SRFF805 and a Dingwall Combustion.
b. I agree that there are way more parallel fret basses sold than fanned fret basses. But the popularity of fanned frets is growing and with Ibanez' entry into the market will likely grow even faster. Remember that at one time 5-string bass guitars were considered a very small niche market.
 
Having owned, and loved, a couple of Dingwall basses, I'm interested to try out Ibanez' take on Fanned Frets. People may not like the look of fanned frets, but if you can't play a fanned fret bass, it's because you aren't trying. It's no harder than playing a "parallel" fret bass. In some ways, it's probably easier. The one exception would upper-register chording or comping, which would probably just take a bit more practice. Since the fanning on these isn't as drastic as it is on a Dingwall, even upper-register stuff may not be a big deal. I gigged Dingwalls and my custom Moye, together, so I was switching back and forth between fanned and parallel fret basses, it was no big deal. The reason I'm not playing Dingwalls currently, is because I had surgery on my left shoulder, which made the 37" scale length too much for my recently repaired shoulder(That and my love of Spector basses!!). This Ibanez looks good and I'll definitely give one a whirl if I come across one...

Finding strings would, SORT OF, be an issue, if you're playing a 37" Dingwall(The Payson's are pretty awesome, as are the Dingwall strings). This Ibanez should be just fine with any regular long-scale strings.

Nice playing, Doc. Sounds good.
 
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Having owned, and loved, a couple of Dingwall basses, I'm interested to try out Ibanez' take on Fanned Frets. People may not like the look of fanned frets, but if you can't play a fanned fret bass, it's because you aren't trying. It's no harder than playing a "parallel" fret bass. In some ways, it's probably easier. The one exception would upper-register chording or comping, which would probably just take a bit more practice. Since the fanning on these isn't as drastic as it is on a Dingwall, even upper-register stuff may not be a big deal. I gigged Dingwalls and my custom Moye, together, so I was switching back and forth between fanned and parallel fret basses, it was no big deal. The reason I'm not playing Dingwalls currently, is because I had surgery on my left shoulder, which made the 37" scale length too much for my recently repaired shoulder(That and my love of Spector basses!!). This Ibanez looks good and I'll definitely give one a whirl if I come across one...

Finding strings would, SORT OF, be an issue, if you're playing a 37" Dingwall(The Payson's are pretty awesome, as are the Dingwall strings). This Ibanez should be just fine with any regular long-scale strings.

Nice playing, Doc. Sounds good.

We prototyped Fanned strings for the Ibanez SRFF4505.
 
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Funny..all these opinions about a bass nobody appears to have played yet. My 6 string version, the SRFF806, arrived at my doorstep 6 days ago. I already have 2 Dingwalls - a 5 and 4 string, and wanted to try a 6 string FF - without mortgaging my house and waiting a year. So...it plays beautifully as far as the neck and string feel. I will play it with my stage amp and cab for the first time on a gig tonight. I'll be curious to see if all the Bart PU hate is justified. If I don't like their sound, I'll just have my local luthier switch them out for something else. Not a deal breaker for me.

The SRFF "premium" model was not an option because apparently they don't make a 6 string version of the SRFF4505. Plus, with 3K as a price tag you are approaching used 6-string Dingwall prices. However, those are hard to find.

And just to set the record straight...you don't need any special strings for the Ibanez basses. You do for the long scale Dingwall models because they have a very long 37 inch B string. The B string on the Ibanez models are all 35.5 inches.

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Hey guys sorry that this thread is a little old, but I am wanting to know all of my options as far as preamps and pickups go if I get the srff806 and do not like the electronics. I am looking for a heavy sound and was thinking about the darkglass preamp.