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IF LEO FENDER WERE ALIVE....

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Just think how bright the basses would be if he was still building now
They'd have to be called trebles and not basses

Amazing that the Tele, Stratocaster,and the Les Paul (as well as all the variants) are still by far the most used and influential guitars ever made; we have built some incredible things over the last 60 years but the best designs were from a long time ago

You know, I’ve come to the conclusion in my 60 some odd years that there are good instruments, and not so good ones, and that fact transcends the years regardless of when they were made. What I find increadible is how consistently the Fender Musical Equipment Company has kept their price points consistent based on average wages. A P-Bass still costs about a week’s pay for the average worker. The Jazz a little more. Been that way since forever.

I’ll agree, the basic engineering hasn’t changed much, however amps are much better, lighter, don’t require as much maintenance, and show off the nuances of different instrument manufacturers better than ever.

Lower manufacturing costs abroad, has allowed for even broader pricing points still with high level of quality that truly makes playing music within the reach of everybody. Unfortunately with the advent of computerized recording programs, and streaming music, music writers and arrangers not coming up with songs meant to be played live, the need for vast numbers of musicians in the USA has shrunk dramatically. At the same time, cut backs in art programs in our schools has also reduced the numbers of available players.

So all in all, its a great time to be a player if you can find decent players to play with, or fortunate to have come across a great song writer to work with. If you are gigging a lot, congrats and keep that flag waiving. Us old folks can’t play forever, and are counting on you to mentor the younger musician whenever you have a chance so live music (other than classical standards) doesn’t go the way of the Dodo.
 
You're welcome and you too. I did a hitch with the 333rd Field Artillery in Wiesbaden in what was then West Germany. Saigon had just fallen to the Communist Red Army. Things were heating up between the free world and the commies. My unit was a tactical nuclear missile battalion based in an old Panzer battlement overlooking the Rhine. We came pretty damn close to launching against the Soviets a time or two. Maybe three.
Amazing! We were also tac nuke! Our battalion got the best meals because NATO brass visited our unit often. A couple times in the middle of the night I know something serious was going on because we loaded up our duffle bags and C-130's were circling overhead. Kaiserslautern "K-town" was one of the biggest towns near Baumholder. Most of the GI's hooked on heroin came through Baumholder to dry out before going stateside. It was horrible, morale was bad.
 
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Off topic: Edison did not invent the light bulb. It was invented by Humphrey Davy nearly 70 years prior, burned so bright it was impractical and consumed a hoop of batteries when in operation. Edison merely developed the commercially viable and successful version. Now ask the general public if they know this or, better yet,if they care.

On topic: I think Leo would be pushing the ASAT.
 
Whichever had the best cost to profit ratio. He designed and invented early public address systems. He was tone deaf. He couldn't carry a tune in a bucket.
He devised redundant string-striking machines, so that he could then concentrate on other aspects of the instrument.
He refined the electric bass and the electric guitar as tools for the working musician.

Am I missing anything?
I doubt Leo ever came near claiming the electric bass as his invention. Solid body, bolt-on necked electric bass? Now we're in a grey area.
 
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On topic: I think Leo would be pushing the ASAT.

Yeah, I think I read that, of the G&L's he was making at the time, his fave was the ASAT.

Which seems counter-intuitive, as the L-series were already established as the most popular G&L basses.

Maybe he just liked the ASAT body shape, maybe that reminded him of his original babies....the Fender "casters".
 
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Paul Tutmarc was well recognized in the business, in fact, as was his son. BTW, Leo Fender's very first patent registered was also for something that Paul Tutmarc invented. Quite the coincidence that Leo registered patents on two of Paul's inventions, isn't it? Paul Tutmarc is also the inventor of the bass amplifier, not just the solid body, electric, fretted bass. The ad below is from 1936...
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I didn't say Tutmarc wasn't first. I said he wasn't successful with his designs. I admitted he was first.

And, again, I'm no Leo fanboy. But facts are facts. His designs were/are tremendous successes.

Just yesterday I was at a rally where thousands of bass players were clamoring for SOMEBODY to make a Tutmarc reissue bass.







(That never happened.) ;)


I don't give a crap who invented the car. Ford put it on the road for the masses. Most humans have no idea who actually got tue first one to mpve on its own power. And they don't care. Everybody knows who Ford was.

Leo Fender was the Henry Ford of bass guitars. That makes him much more influential and important than whomever first crafted a bass from a slab of wood.
 
Paul Tutmarc could have succeeded if he had tried. The fact is, he didn't realize what he had invented, or make any real effort to market it. He was more interested in performing. His design was too far ahead of its time, specifically, the amplifiers of the day were hardly adequate. No one knew what to do with it. And he didn't care, so it fell by the wayside. Even if he had tried, a little distraction called World War II probably would have derailed production and sales. Finally, he had a number of inventions stolen by dishonest business partners, at least one of whom sold his pickup design to Rickenbacker.

By the time Leo Fender came along, after the war, electronics had improved significantly, and music had changed. Jazz and lively Big Band were much more accepted, and soon gave birth to Rock and Roll, and the rest is history. Tutmarc actually stumbled on with his electrics after the war, six-strings as well, but never made any real effort. He may have been the first, but Fender was the first to succeed.

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I should have this repro done soon. It's a lovely body shape, and very well balanced as well.
 
I'm sure Leo Fender was aware that the little Tutmarc basses existed, despite their extremely limited success (read: catastrophic commercial failure). One would think that by 1950 the need for a proper electric bass was becoming pretty obvious. That's where Leo Fender stepped in. One can imagine Fender thinking...."Hey Paul, let me show you how it's done".

Despite Rickenbacker's early experiments, even they realized Fender had chosen the right path for the electric bass. Hence the 1957 debut of the 4000, their answer to the Fender Precision. As a nod to the Precision design and aesthetics, Ric even spray painted the 4000 plexi pickguards gold, mimicking the Precision's gold ano guard.
 
I'm sure Leo Fender was aware that the little Tutmarc basses existed,
The evidence points to the exact opposite. Leo knew nothing of Paul Tutmarc or his instruments.
One would think that by 1950 the need for a proper electric bass was becoming pretty obvious.
This is also false. Bass players played the double bass violin. When the first Precision bass appeared in 1951, sales were lack luster (to be kind), and only around 300 were made. Double bass violinists wanted nothing to do with the little deep guitar, but some guitar players did. They realized they could pick up more paying gigs if they could play the new Fender bass. Rock 'n' Roll was what really cemented the popularity of all of Fender's guitars; basses, and amps. It wasn't until bass players heard for themselves how much louder and seemingly deeper the Precision truly was, that the switch began. The big plus being that they could actually hear themselves for a change. Precisions were smaller; lighter, and far easier to transport. So here we are and Fender is still the best there is. "The more things change, the more they stay the same."
 
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