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If you lived in Houston...

#61
Spidey2112 said:
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Thanks - I'm here all week.

On a more serious note, I hope everyone is OK, and (very secondarily) that their treasured instruments come out OK. I had a Rickenbacker 325 get a bit of warping after a minor flood once - came out OK after everything dried out, but the amount of angst I had over that silly thing was...in retrospect, well, ridiculous, but at the time it seemed important.
 
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lz4005 said:
Just like when the Nashville flood happened, the solution is to be smart long before the rain starts falling.
Buy a house on top of a hill, with good drainage. Rent an apartment on the 2nd floor. Don't store your valuables in a basement.
Don't put guitars in a warehouse built on a meander of a river. Buy flood insurance. If they won't sell you flood insurance, move.
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If you buy a house on top of a hill make sure you put in a lightning rod.
 
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GIBrat51 said:
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Yes, Nevada does - if you look at the whole state. But, I don't live in the whole state; I live in Las Vegas - way down in the pointy bottom corner on this earthquake zone map. And, in Las Vegas:
- it's pretty easy to stay out of washes - where the flash flood water goes - if you've got more than 3 brain cells to rub together. Just don't be an ass and drive down streets where the water is over the curbs and running like a race horse, and you'll be fine...
- yes, a 3.2 on the Richter scale (our last one) is technically an earthquake, but if you're asleep? Oops.. too bad; you missed it. See the map? Las Vegas is right on the line between Zone B (almost nothing) and Zone C (moderate shaking possible). They're very rare; (3 in the last 33 years I've lived here) and 2 of them I had to hear about on the news...
- Yes, we do have wildfires - occasionally. But, they're pretty rare out here in the Mojave Desert - it's way too dry for much of anything to grow, so... no fuel, no fire. Our fires are mostly up north, and in the mountains - where there is stuff to burn.

The point of my answers - I have a sister who lives in Houston, by the way; and "Hurricanes" is my answer when she asks why I don't move there - is that hurricanes and tornadoes happen every year. Earthquakes and wildfires don't; not around Vegas, anyway. This is the Flash Flood Season right now; we've had a couple, and yes, a couple of dimwits had to be pulled out of their cars. But there's a big - Very big - difference between rescuing a couple of fools, and the terrible destruction/loss of life that hurricanes and tornadoes can cause. I know; I've survived several of each. What's possible here, is just minor inconvenience AFAIC...;)
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Thank you for posting this valuable information. I am just starting to research different areas to relocate to and hadn't given this much thought.
 
#67
Biggbass said:
If you lived in Houston and didn't have enough time to get a rental truck, load it up, and get out of the area in advance, what would you do to protect your musical gear with the flood coming?
Let's say you have a couple of dozen stringed instruments, half a dozen amps, recording computer, pre amps, microphones, and related connectivity gear.

put it all in the attic?
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...Sounds like this will be your first opportunity to make the best you can of a problem with potential for no good outcome.

Are you certain it's gonna flood? If so what is the predicted crest. Can you beat that with your attic? Take what you can and put the rest up as high as you can and hope for the best maybe?

I'm not sure I'd stay but I would go nuts if I left so I'd wind up putting up some way to the roof just in case. Break out a sterno stove and some cuppa noodles and some personal protection, and wait it out. And don't forget water.
GIBrat51 said:
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Yes, Nevada does - if you look at the whole state. But, I don't live in the whole state; I live in Las Vegas - way down in the pointy bottom corner on this earthquake zone map. And, in Las Vegas:
- it's pretty easy to stay out of washes - where the flash flood water goes - if you've got more than 3 brain cells to rub together. Just don't be an ass and drive down streets where the water is over the curbs and running like a race horse, and you'll be fine...
- yes, a 3.2 on the Richter scale (our last one) is technically an earthquake, but if you're asleep? Oops.. too bad; you missed it. See the map? Las Vegas is right on the line between Zone B (almost nothing) and Zone C (moderate shaking possible). They're very rare; (3 in the last 33 years I've lived here) and 2 of them I had to hear about on the news...
- Yes, we do have wildfires - occasionally. But, they're pretty rare out here in the Mojave Desert - it's way too dry for much of anything to grow, so... no fuel, no fire. Our fires are mostly up north, and in the mountains - where there is stuff to burn.

The point of my answers - I have a sister who lives in Houston, by the way; and "Hurricanes" is my answer when she asks why I don't move there - is that hurricanes and tornadoes happen every year. Earthquakes and wildfires don't; not around Vegas, anyway. This is the Flash Flood Season right now; we've had a couple, and yes, a couple of dimwits had to be pulled out of their cars. But there's a big - Very big - difference between rescuing a couple of fools, and the terrible destruction/loss of life that hurricanes and tornadoes can cause. I know; I've survived several of each. What's possible here, is just minor inconvenience AFAIC...;)
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the first time i saw lost wages from the ground was coming in from Salt Lake City in the dead of night. After hours of complete darkness i topped a small rise and there in the valley below were lights to the horizon in all directions. It was impressive to say the least.
 
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fhm555 said:
the first time i saw lost wages from the ground was coming in from Salt Lake City in the dead of night. After hours of complete darkness i topped a small rise and there in the valley below were lights to the horizon in all directions. It was impressive to say the least.
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I was equally moved on my initial approach to your planet.
Subsequently, not so much.


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#71
INSURANCE--- it is all just stuff. I would get newer better stuff. Pictures and hard drives would get saved. That being said, we all have that 1 bass that for some reason plays fells better than any other so I would grab my number #1, if I could.
I live in central Florida, we always brace for hurricanes but we just lose power for a few days. I just had brand new roof put on, so I am good for a few years.
 
#73
CarpeBasso said:
Texas also has blazing heat and bitter cold, with biting north winds. Dust, poisionous reptiles. We have all of that, but we also have fellow Texans, and for this reason I wouldn't think of living anywhere else in the world. Texans are tough, stubborn, hard-headed, and fiercely independant, but they're also the friendliest and most caring people in the world. We wave at strangers we meet on the road, and are polite & generous. Unless somebody messes with us. Those poor folks in SE Texas have suffered a great disaster, but they will come back stronger than ever. People in my north Texas neck of the woods are sending a steady stream of supplies, volunteers and money down their way. And we know they'd do the same for us, and in fact they have in the past. People all over the country have been overwhelmingly kind and generous, so props to them, but despite the "inconveniences", that's why I'll always live in Texas. It's a state of mind.
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That I understand, which is why I was looking there.

Just easier places to live without the unpredictability of the weather.

No issues with the people or their state of mind.
 
#76
Biggbass said:
I'm not in the Houston area but have a daughter and grand kids in Spring. Fortunately they didn't get any flooding in their home.
We live on a hill, with good drainage and my project studio is on the 2nd floor, no river nearby and I have adequate insurance to cover all contents of the house and out buildings. But watching the news coverage of Houston and the Texas Coastal region flooding I couldn't help but wonder about all the guitars, amps and gear that must have been compromised.

Now, Tornado season...that's a whole other thing. My wife is wanting to install an underground shelter after these past two years. We had one come as close as 4 miles from us last year. I guess one never knows...when it's game over it's game over, turn out the lights.
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Just to give you an idea as to what would be involved, Alembic received a bass to work on after Katrina. As you would expect it had soaked in the water for some time. The last I read about it, they said that they still couldn't start to rebuild it simply because the salts from the water were still leaching out.

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#78
bound'n'blocked said:
Three words. Have. Good. Insurance. ......and the house they ended up with was much nicer than anything they could have ever had otherwise. Insurance is a weird thing in my mind.
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+1000
Insurance is you betting the insurance company that a tragic event will happen to you and/or your possessions.

Son had a motorcycle stolen in San Antonio from the parking lot directly in front of his employer's in broad daylight. Security cams got video. He had good insurance, no claims for years(deductible had shrunk to zero for no claims), and wound up with a bike much better than the one that got stolen. His bike was found about 6 months later when SAPD served a warrant on some loser for something and happened upon my son's stolen bike behind the guy's rented house.

Another side story on insurance.
When young and foolish, JC got involved with a looney tune woman. When JC got involved with his current wife, the looney tune broke into JC's house and vandalized it and band gear(we practiced at my place). A roadie had gone there to get a piece of gear that needed work and ALMOST caught the looney(she ran out the back door, tennis shoe print in wet soil there). He waded through the 1 inch of water, turned off the wide-open faucets, unplugged bathtub drains, and called me. Insurance co paid up the full replacement cost and then.....cancelled my policy.

Yep, insurance is weird. You're wagering that trouble gonna' come your way.
 
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Johnny Crab said:
+1000
Insurance is you betting the insurance company that a tragic event will happen to you and/or your possessions.

Son had a motorcycle stolen in San Antonio from the parking lot directly in front of his employer's in broad daylight. Security cams got video. He had good insurance, no claims for years(deductible had shrunk to zero for no claims), and wound up with a bike much better than the one that got stolen. His bike was found about 6 months later when SAPD served a warrant on some loser for something and happened upon my son's stolen bike behind the guy's rented house.

Another side story on insurance.
When young and foolish, JC got involved with a looney tune woman. When JC got involved with his current wife, the looney tune broke into JC's house and vandalized it and band gear(we practiced at my place). A roadie had gone there to get a piece of gear that needed work and ALMOST caught the looney(she ran out the back door, tennis shoe print in wet soil there). He waded through the 1 inch of water, turned off the wide-open faucets, unplugged bathtub drains, and called me. Insurance co paid up the full replacement cost and then.....cancelled my policy.

Yep, insurance is weird. You're wagering that trouble gonna' come your way.
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This thought has likewise occurred to me, that health insurance is a ruinously expensive monthly bet that one places while fully hoping to lose.
 
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