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I'm buying a banjo


With that particular word, I got the very same sense — grand-iosity :D Here, just the basic Goodtime's gonna cost you $1399, if you're not careful. I paid well under a grand for mine :) — granted, there was no case, no bag, no bells 'n' whistles. But it turned out to be one minty, unadulterated, purebred, bouncing baby banjo, nonetheless. No hassles, prestigious, right out-of-the-box. Previously, as an introduction, I had a real cheapy.

It was okay. Perfunctory — but less than inspirational, let's say. It also had a resonator which I didn't need nor desire, and it didn't belong to me :) When I returned it to its rightful home, there was a distinct hole left behind. So, when the opportunity came along, I took it.

No regrets. That's the way to go. I love the relative delicacy, subtlety, of the openback, with just a claw and a hammer in tow. Much more my speed, usually. But, with the right spirit, and, in the right circumstance, there are few limitations, either way :) I do, however, love this Deering — in contrast, endearing. Inspirational :)

… a decent one starts at right around that price point :D
 
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With that particular word, I got the very same sense — grand-iosity :D Here, just the basic Goodtime's gonna cost you $1399, if you're not careful. I paid well under a grand for mine :) — granted, there was no case, no bag, no bells 'n' whistles. But it turned out to be one minty, unadulterated, purebred, bouncing baby banjo, nonetheless. No hassles, prestigious, right out-of-the-box. Previously, as an introduction, I had a real cheapy.

It was okay. Perfunctory — but less than inspirational, let's say. It also had a resonator which I didn't need nor desire, and it didn't belong to me :) When I returned it to its rightful home, there was a distinct hole left behind. So, when the opportunity came along, I took it.

No regrets. That's the way to go. I love the relative delicacy, subtlety, of the openback, with just a claw and a hammer in tow. Much more my speed, usually. But, with the right spirit, and, in the right circumstance, there are few limitations, either way :) I do, however, love this Deering — in contrast, endearing. Inspirational :)
Dig. I've taken the resonator off mine and played it, and I totally get the appeal of openback, though mine doesn't make it very easy to play openback with all those sharp edges on the pot. I want to learn clawhammer, too, but at this point I'm just trying to get my stubborn fingers to behave again :D

Feeling a little more charitable over this banjo after playing it for a while today. Still wouldn't buy another one but I'm making it work. Also tried out the mic and pickup with dirt together in my little recording setup, and I think it's going to work as long as I don't try too hard to make it sound like a blend of the two. When I did that, I wasn't as impressed with the sound as I was when I kept them separated in different channels. Let the mic sound like a clean banjo and don't worry about the dirt making the pickup signal sound like a guitar.

Given me a whole new outlook on my studio/video project. I was going to make it all bass and drums and only slip in banjo on a couple songs, but now it's a power trio. That'll be my hook...better not say too much more about it lest someone steal my brilliant ideas..LOL! Only wish I had more time and room in the house to work on it, but I'm thinking I better make time and room soon!
 
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And I do believe I've beaten this banjo into submitting to my needs. Wish the neck were a little wider, but it's sounding pretty good and I've got the action good now, though I think I want to go to a lighter set of strings.

I'm also finally getting the hang of fingerpicking again, and I'm slowly getting used to the finger and thumb picks, though I still think it sucks that thumbpicks are hard to do up and down strokes for when you want to shred :D But I've been putting in a little practice every day when I can, and using an electric guitar when I need to keep quiet. Thought using metal fingerpicks on guitar would be bizarre but it sounds pretty good, and I've been able to actually play a handful of simple songs. So now I'm feeling bummed about all the time I lose when I gave up fingerpicking. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody!
 
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So I've decided that this thread gets such awesome response that it's now my official banjo blog till I get sick of doing it. I will discuss my every thought through my journey through this newfound love of mine with frequent updates, no matter how mundane. You're welcome.

Every day it's getting easier to fingerpick, and every day the picks get more comfortable. I'm using them on all my fingers at the moment and exercising the little finger, too. I've been trying to remember what songs I did when I was a kid, and though I still have a lot of rough spots, I've actually developed a little competency again. Very little, but there's no substitute for practice, and that I've been doing. Put in an hour today. I love working on it and getting my skills back together. It's work but it's fun work when you can see improvement every day.

So now that I'm getting to that point, I'm wanting to experiment around a little with picks and strings. Done a little with the picks...I prefer .018 gauge fingerpicks over .013 and the L thumbpick over the M, although I'm not entirely happy with either of them. I want something that doesn't stick out as much as the Dunlops, maybe less pointy. Still looking but nothing's jumping out at me. But I ordered a couple sets of some heavier Dunlop fingerpicks today to see if I prefer them over the .018's. Now that I figured out how to keep them from digging into my cuticles and still be tight enough to stay on, I'm digging them and their price :D

And in my constant effort to get the action just a tiny bit lower, I'm going to try lightening up on the string gauge. I've been seeing where some banjo players think that the strings have to be looped in traditional banjo fashion to actually sound like a banjo. But I don't think I buy into it after reading something on the Deering site why they use ball ends. I just didn't want to pay Deering prices for strings, nor did I want to deal with looping, so I've mostly been considering electric guitar strings. Most 6 string banjo players seem to as well.

Always used D'addario XL's on guitar (lately using 10-46) and they've been fine for me, but I'm wondering if I might find something a little more banjo-y elsewhere. Not that the XL's sound bad on banjo, but I want more brightness and less sustain in the mid mids. I use Dunlop Super Bright Nickels on bass and a guitar version of them I think would be really good on my banjo. I'm not really up on what's the latest and greatest with guitarists, but I saw that Billy Gibbons has a signature set made by Dunlop now. Read some reviews that made me think that they might possibly something more like the SBN's in tone since the word "biting" appeared often, and the price was a little more than XL's but not bad, so I ordered a set and one for my guitar, too. Couldn't bring myself to try Billy's own favorite gauges of 7-38, so I got 9-42 instead. Probably will take a few days to get them, but it'll be fun to see what happens when I do.
 
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So I've decided that this thread gets such awesome response that it's now my official banjo blog …
Oh my :woot: This is gonna be good :) Just remember, there ain't no easy way :D

… banjo fashion …
Not sure these two words go together ;) But I'd say there may be a point in using traditional tech., when chasing that traditional vibe. At least there's no deviation. Also, being a bit loopy naturally, this is how I roll :wacky:

… Every day it's getting easier to fingerpick, and every day the picks get more comfortable. …
Where fingerpicks are concerned, I'm the Wes Montgomery of banjo pluckers. Your explorations in this area will be most educational — I'm all ears fingers :) Thanks, in advance.

So, with 120K posts here, how many do you have on squealbanjo?
FIFY ;)

Congrats, @JimmyM, by the way — Pheidippides got nuthin' on you, champ. Go for Gold :)
 
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Come on up to Gallatin, Tennessee sometime and I'll give you three prime locations to visit. One is Top Hog. I'll take you there and we can stand in line for a while and talk bass. Second location is a fellow who builds Banjo's and his shop is just a few miles from me. They are sought after. Steve Martin owns and plays several. Not cheap but very good and very different sounding. Last location is Corner Music. Be sure to ask for their newest volume of '10,000 Banjo Jokes'. I think they are currently selling volume #225.
 
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Come on up to Gallatin, Tennessee sometime and I'll give you three prime locations to visit. One is Top Hog. I'll take you there and we can stand in line for a while and talk bass. Second location is a fellow who builds Banjo's and his shop is just a few miles from me. They are sought after. Steve Martin owns and plays several. Not cheap but very good and very different sounding. Last location is Corner Music. Be sure to ask for their newest volume of '10,000 Banjo Jokes'. I think they are currently selling volume #225.
Sounds like that would be a blast! I'm not getting out like I used to after spending over 20 years driving and flying to gigs all over, but I will certainly keep those in mind for when I want some serious banjo and bass drooling :D
 
Not sure these two words go together ;) But I'd say there may be a point in using traditional tech., when chasing that traditional vibe. At least there's no deviation. Also, being a bit loopy naturally, this is how I roll :wacky:
LOL! Well I think I am going to raise the action when I get the new strings. The E string tends to lose its ability to vibrate with the action that low when I'm playing higher frets.

Where fingerpicks are concerned, I'm the Wes Montgomery of banjo pluckers. Your explorations in this area will be most educational — I'm all ears fingers :) Thanks, in advance.
The amazing thumb of Wes Montgomery. I was never any sort of Wes Montgomery with or without picks :D but I did it bare-fingered when I did fingerstyle. Couldn't stand the picks at all. Eventually I only flatpicked, though I always did both fingers and pick on bass. So I doubt you'll find it very educational but I did find one thing out today...

National fingerpicks made in the US are collectable for some reason, and there are several small builders who do what they consider exact recreations but they charge a lot. Fortunately the Dunlops are doing me just fine, except I want to try the thicker gauges since I preferred the .018's over the .013's. But apparently Nationals are the big sought-afters. I don't know enough to care.

But I do know I need to get my thumbpick game sorted. I like how the Dunlop Ultex feels but I think I need a lesson in how to wear a thumbpick comfortably, because I can't get it to stay tight on my thumb without cutting off circulation after a while. I have L and M but they don't come in an XL, only in celluloid, and celluloid picks wear much quicker. I think it's got to be a case of operator failure because my fingers are neither long nor fat. The midsection, however...

:D

 
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I lnow everyone's eager to know this, but here's a brief list of Devo songs that I've found to sound good on banjo:

Gut Feeling/Slap Your Mammy (by far, my favorite to play, especially the Slap Your Mammy part)
Jocko Homo
Satisfaction
Through Being Cool
Beautiful World
Devo Has Feelings, Too
Shrivel Up

Surprisingly I didn't think "Whip It" sounded very good on banjo. And a lot of their songs from "Whip It" onward don't feature guitar all that much.
 
LOL! Well I think I am going to raise the action when I get the new strings. The E string tends to lose its ability to vibrate with the action that low when I'm playing higher frets.
A gauge change — especially with a Goodtime, but maybe across-the-board — is probably gonna mess with the action. In my case, the lack of a truss-rod guarantees it. Either way it can help, if you go the right way. Sonny Landreth, on his strats, adjusts nothing but as he strategically adds mass, he naturally ends up — no strings attached — with an ideal action for slide playing, at least as far as he's concerned. Who could argue? :)

A higher action, they say, is often beneficial to sound production, to a certain degree. Most luthiers probably prefer a higher action, on an acoustic instrument, if they can get away with it. It makes them look (sound) good :) Buzz is a buzzkill. Maybe, banjo's the same.

The amazing thumb of Wes Montgomery. I was never any sort of Wes Montgomery with or without picks :D but I did it bare-fingered when I did fingerstyle. Couldn't stand the picks at all. Eventually I only flatpicked, though I always did both fingers and pick on bass. So I doubt you'll find it very educational but I did find one thing out today...

National fingerpicks made in the US are collectable for some reason, and there are several small builders who do what they consider exact recreations but they charge a lot. Fortunately the Dunlops are doing me just fine, except I want to try the thicker gauges since I preferred the .018's over the .013's. But apparently Nationals are the big sought-afters. I don't know enough to care.

But I do know I need to get my thumbpick game sorted. I like how the Dunlop Ultex feels but I think I need a lesson in how to wear a thumbpick comfortably, because I can't get it to stay tight on my thumb without cutting off circulation after a while. I have L and M but they don't come in an XL, only in celluloid, and celluloid picks wear much quicker. I think it's got to be a case of operator failure because my fingers are neither long nor fat. The midsection, however...

:D
Yeah. Don't mind me :) I mention Wes only in an attempt to draw a clearly overly-optimistic similarity regarding certain tonal characteristics — an ensuing warm and silky (dull and thudding) texture ;) (I should get back to the banjo — I'm still trying to get the knack of a new-fangled ching-ring and everything else that's attached to it — that came my way, in recent times. Best, I think, to steer clear of drumming ;) Mastery is evidently evasive :) Same as it ever was.)

I can't stomach fingerpicks either ;) I no longer even possess any. Playing a bass, the last thing I want is any foreign protrusions getting in the way :wacky: And you won't see me pouring toxic goo onto my fingertips any time soon. There are enough toxins about the place already :) Mainlining superglue doesn't seem all that wise, if you ask me ;)

My guess is that, within a few months, the noggin will readily have adapted and learnt to ignore any odd distal tip-extensions, and any concurrent pain caused by those crippling, sadistic contraptions. Clearly, it does happen sure enough, across-the-board, for anyone who toughs it out for long enough.
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Those are another Tommy's pick, if it helps any (The tort pick's another story).

Love this guy. He'll do me. And his choice of pick is not unlike mine, dimensions-wise — an all-round good start, I'm guessing. I'd be happy to start there, at any rate. On ya, Tommy :)

"Tommy uses D'Andrea ProPlec rounded triangle picks and Jim Dunlop medium thumb picks."
The pain of it all :) Where picks are concerned, micro-managing the position of a pick is par for the course, no matter how abrasive its surface. I wonder if it's not the same with a thumbpick — ongoing pick attitude-maintenance seems logical. One with a little bit of give will be more tolerable but there will be subsequent drawbacks, I'm assuming.

Looking forward to more tipward tales and tunes, Jimmy. There's gotta be a better way to climb that foggy mountain :)
A beautiful world, it is :) I'd be inclined to give corporate anthem a go, out of the traps — more my speed :)

… a lot of their songs from "Whip It" onward don't feature guitar all that much.
Don't let that stop you :D
 
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Banjo is fun! I'm pretty terrible at it, but whenever I jam with a banjo player, I'll always ask if we can swap instruments for a couple of songs.

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but standard banjo tuning is the same as the top 4 strings of Keith Richards' guitar (open G tuning). So you can play Rolling Stones tabs basically as-is, impress your friends.
 
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UPDATE: New strings and fingerpicks day!

I got the two heaviest sets of Dunlop metal fingerpicks (.0225 and .025), went right to the heaviest set, and fell in love as much as is possible to fall in love with fingerpicks. So now I'm sorted when it comes to picks. Dunlop Ultex L for the thumb, too, in case anyone forgot. Not even going to bother trying the .0225's. I know I won't like them. Sure, I'll keep them, but only because it's cheaper than returning them. Part of the price of R&D, I guess.

I also got a couple sets of the Dunlop Rev. Willy G's Mexican Lottery strings in 9-42. Got them on, and will have to raise the action from the 10-46 D'addarios, but I'm digging the sound pretty well. They sound a bit brighter than the D'addarios, which helps on a banjo, though to what degree I can't tell yet. I don't know if it's the low action or just the light gauge itself, but I'm not feeling the love yet so I'm putting off trying them on my electric guitar. It's got a Floyd Rose and they're no fun to intonate.

Currently letting the strings settle in before I do anything else to it. I could probably tweak the truss rod but I don't feel like it. 7 am comes early when you're used to being a nightowl. But it's good to have my finger and thumbpick game down. I was always thinking it was because I suck that I couldn't always get along with the .018's, but that is only partially true :D
 
I'm having fun following along as you get things together. Looking forward to hearing it at some point. I may have missed it, but are you tuning to E standard, or open G to cop a bit of 5-string (or Keith Richards) vibe, or what?
E standard and drop D so far, but some open tuning tuning stuff will be in the works once I get the more rudimentary stuff down. Might even bust out my slide.
 
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