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Instrument quality and development

Mr. Wellington,

First off, I think it's awesome that you make yourself available to answer questions on this forum. I'm new here, but have already learned quite a few things reading back through previous threads. Thank you so much!

I attended Mr. Wooten's clinic / show in Davenport, IA a few weeks ago, and I was really blown away. What an awesome and fun experience, so glad you guys swung through here! I'm not sure if I've ever witnessed so much talent on one stage at once, and it was an absolute pleasure to witness in person musicians with such a mastery of their craft. I've been thinking about it ever since! I now really regret not hanging around afterwards to talk to you guys, but I was honestly intimidated :hmm:

I wasn't aware of your work before that show, but have since done quite a bit of reading up on your teaching methods, etc. and I really respect your opinion and work ethic. I'm 35 and have played bass off and on (poorly, compared to the likes of you and others here I'm sure) since my mid-teens. Seeing you guys play really inspired me to pick it up again and to try to finally learn to read music, etc. Just for my own personal growth and fun, really - I don't have any plans at this point to form a band or break into the music industry.

Enough background, on to my question (and I welcome others' opinions on this as well)...

How much do you think the quality of one's instrument affects their learning development? I currently have an Ibanez SoundGear SR800LE (Japanese-made) and while I don't really consider it a complete piece of $hit, it certainly isn't a custom Fodera by any means. I assume that generally, the higher the quality of the bass, the easier it is to play and learn on. I'm guessing the popular opinion is that if you can learn to play well on a crappy bass, then you'll be able to play even better on a really nice one. But I have to think there's some amount of frustration that gets introduced in your development when you're playing on a bass with 3" action (exaggeration, obviously) vs. a super-nice one.

I tend to have these thoughts about a lot of hobbies I get into. Take golf, for example - when you're first trying to learn to play, most people aren't going to go drop $3,000 on a nice set of clubs, they're probably going to get a beginner set at first to make sure they like the game, etc. But that beginner set is not going to be anywhere near as forgiving as a high-end set, and a beginning player might have a much easier and more enjoyable time if they'd had the means to learn using a higher-end set rather than dealing with the limitations of their low-end set. That beginner might quit, thinking "I just suck at golf!" while, if they'd maybe had a chance to play with higher-quality equipment, they might not have had the same frustrations and would have stuck with it. I try not to use this as an excuse for not getting better in these situations (e.g. - "I could play like Anthony if I just had a better bass!"), but it is something that I do think about from time to time. If I was really serious about pursuing a career in music, the decision to upgrade might be easier, but dropping thousands of dollars on a nice bass is a tough sell in my current situation.

I'd love to get your take on all this. Thanks in advance if you have time to get back to me!

On a side note, my wife and I are currently in the process of trying to move to the Nashville area sometime relatively soon, and if we do I hope to possibly attend one of Mr. Wooten's camps or get involved with his organization in some capacity, the whole thing seems cool as hell. So maybe I'll see you around. Or I might just have to see about taking some Skype lessons with you, if I ever start to get more serious about bass.

My apologies for such a long post, wanted to make sure I included the proper accolades and so forth in here!
 
I guess I should also add that I realize that instrument quality doesn't really make a difference when learning how to read music, understand theory, etc. I'm more referring to the actual playing and execution of techniques, etc.
 
It's hard to answer your question. Some of the best musicians I know grew up poor like myself. They didn't have quality gear. It was their hard work and dedication that lead to their success.

Just like with athletics, 'training' gear gets better over time and it produces better results.

But as far as basses go,..,

Your bass is a good bass. And a Fender Jazz and a Fender Precision is a good bass. Most of my heroes made their mark playing P-basses and J-basses, not high end custom made basses. Those bass didn't exist then.

But they do now! And they are ergonomically designed. And they have better electronics and craftsmanship. I'm sure that is a factor in playability so it is a factor in 'growth'.

I'm not saying that you need a gazillion dollar bass to play better. That would be irresponsible for me to say that. But if you ask me if it makes a difference I'd have to say 'yes'.

If I were learning how to be a good race car driver, I think that the car that I learn how to drive/race in does have an impact how good of a driver I become. Or, at least,...it affects the rate at which I get good.

peace,
anthony
 
Ok, just got off the phone with Fodera, they're going to get started building my new bass within the next few weeks...

j/k!

Thanks very much for your feedback Anthony, I really appreciate it!
 
Yo Dave,

Be careful,...if you visit the factory it's almost impossible to 'not' buy a bass. That place is incredible. And Vinnie Fodera just may be the nicest guy on the planet. And he's definitely the most passionate artisan I've ever met.

Everyone there is amazing. And Jason can tell you anything you need to know about the custom bass building process.

It's a fun hang and there's always a famous bass player there when I go.

But be careful! There's nothing like playing a bass that was custom made for you with specs and materials that you've dreamt about. And we've all had that dream! I made my dream a reality. Best investment in my career that I've ever made.

I have 7 of them! Dreaming of #8 already!!!

peace,
anthony
 
You are always welcome to come by the shop and demo them!

Be well.

Regards,

J

And this is how they get you!! You go to the company for a visit, they are insanely wonderful people, you try one and you WILL buy one. You'll think to yourself "I'll just get a standard, that's all I need" six months later you are back at the factory, spec'ing out a deluxe model....of some kind. I went from not knowing their brand, to playing them, to now owning three of them and working on my fourth. The fourth is my "Custom Dream Bass" and I honestly couldn't think of anyone else to build it.
 
Thanks for the kind words Ant! Hoping to see you soon!!

Be well.

J

Yo Dave,

Be careful,...if you visit the factory it's almost impossible to 'not' buy a bass. That place is incredible. And Vinnie Fodera just may be the nicest guy on the planet. And he's definitely the most passionate artisan I've ever met.

Everyone there is amazing. And Jason can tell you anything you need to know about the custom bass building process.

It's a fun hang and there's always a famous bass player there when I go.

But be careful! There's nothing like playing a bass that was custom made for you with specs and materials that you've dreamt about. And we've all had that dream! I made my dream a reality. Best investment in my career that I've ever made.

I have 7 of them! Dreaming of #8 already!!!

peace,
anthony
 
LOL!! That IS our evil plan!!

In all seriousness, we just love what we do here and really enjoy seeing people's reactions to the instruments. It is how we continually learn and improve.

Cheers,

J

And this is how they get you!! You go to the company for a visit, they are insanely wonderful people, you try one and you WILL buy one. You'll think to yourself "I'll just get a standard, that's all I need" six months later you are back at the factory, spec'ing out a deluxe model....of some kind. I went from not knowing their brand, to playing them, to now owning three of them and working on my fourth. The fourth is my "Custom Dream Bass" and I honestly couldn't think of anyone else to build it.