Instrument to Line Level

[Jacobfred]

Nice! But it looks like those units use 1/4" inputs for the monitor signal...? I always get an XLR. Plus my signal is XLR from the DI at that point.

In general yes, but you can use a 1/4" to XLR adapter if need be for the monitor back from the FOH. Your DI can feed the rolls first and then pass through to FOH from the Mic Out, if I'm understanding you correctly.

But the PM351 may be a better option since it has a dedicated 1/4" instrument input and then the line and mic level inputs as well. May still need the 1/4" to XLR adapter, but it's cheap and easy.

 

[davio]

I see. I was wondering if you had the SansAmp already, you could have turned the blend knob all the way counterclockwise and get zero SansAmp and 100% of your clean tone.

I think we may have a winner, actually. I didn't remember that the BDDI had an unaffected parallel out. That way I can use it JUST to drive the IEM and *maybe* do a little shaping for them if needed but leave it out of my main chain (to amp and PA).

Thanks for talking sense while I was down the rabbit hole.

 

[bassbrad]

@davio Rolls is serious pro audio gear built to top spec and to last. I've had some pieces for 30 plus years that still work flawlessly.

 

[MYLOWFREQ]

I think we may have a winner, actually. I didn't remember that the BDDI had an unaffected parallel out. That way I can use it JUST to drive the IEM and *maybe* do a little shaping for them if needed but leave it out of my main chain (to amp and PA).

Thanks for talking sense while I was down the rabbit hole.

You're welcome. The unaffected parallel out will be still instrument level. You need to use the XLR out, select "line level" on the XLR out switch, and turn the blend knob all the way counterclockwise (unless you want to add a little bit of the SansAmp circuitry).

 

[micguy]

Real talk: I've seen the Rolls brand around for ages but have always passed them off as cheap garbage. Am I right to do so? I found the Rolls MP13 and it looks like what I need but I'm hesitant to give it a shot. Why does nobody else make such a seemingly simple piece of equipment???

The pedals on my pedalboards are generally top notch gear - I generally follow the axiom of buying the good stuff first being cheaper than buying cheap stuff and then upgrading. The in ear mixer that I drive my earbuds with? A Rolls PM351 - I actually have 2 of them (a spare, just in case). Although they look utilitarian, and are rather cheap, they work just fine. I had the same general thoughts about Rolls - can they be any good at that price? As it turns out, a few years in, both of my Rolls mixers are working just fine. The also work great off of pedalboard power. 9 volts is a bit skimpy - you won't have a lot of headroom. 12 works fine for me, and they'll take up to 15.

I bought mine from Sweetwater. Rolls packages their product in a rather oversize box - lots of room and padding, I'm sure the thing would easily survive shipping in the original packaging. Then Sweetwater packs it up in.... a box that is generously oversized compared with that. This package lands on my porch, and I have no idea what it is. What it was was 99 percent packaging material, and a little Rolls mixer. Needless to say, both of the Rolls mixers I got this way arrived in fine shape.

 

[Feral Feline]

@davio Rolls is serious pro audio gear built to top spec and to last. I've had some pieces for 30 plus years that still work flawlessly.

This is how I've always seen Rolls, pro-level.

 

[davio]

You're welcome. The unaffected parallel out will be still instrument level. You need to use the XLR out, select "line level" on the XLR out switch, and turn the blend knob all the way counterclockwise (unless you want to add a little bit of the SansAmp circuitry).

For sure! The parallel out would be going to my amp while the XLR would be going to my IEM mixer.

 

[davio]

Just put the new version of the BDDI on the board and not only does it do the job perfectly and gives me control over EQ just in my IEMs, but the new bass and mid frequency switches make a world of difference!

Thanks again, everyone!