Is "Best Guitar Parts" (BGP) good?

[109eh]

Do anyone know or heard about the job of "Best Guitar Parts" (BGP) builder?
I'm searching a quartersawn maple neck, and BGP is 80 USS less than USACG, for example!
And BGP offers roasted maple neck, roasted swamp ash body ans a lot of custom options (specially for guitar neck)! I think how will be a roasted swamp ash body sound and weight?
Let's me know your opinion and your experience

 

[bal704]

I've had one of their guitar necks. Top drawer stuff. It appears the crew at BGP used to work at USACG and Warmoth. The 3 businesses are only minutes apart.

If the guitar/bass you build with their parts sucks, it's on the builder, not the parts. Same is true for Musikraft/USACG/Warmoth.

 

[109eh]

I ask about the quality of the parts of BGP. For example: I saw review of others brand/builders (notthing about BGP) about improperly installed frets (cut the fret end of fingerboard, cavity poorly made), I saw arm having "irregularities" (high / low at some points of the back neck) and bad radius done. The wood dry is important too.
I read too about the cred at BGP work or worked at the two other builder...

 

[BTL]

Best Guitar Parts whose core business is operating as an OEM for the US-based custom builder industry.

They are a top-tier manufacturer that does all cutting with CNC machines and employs first quality labor and materials.

Although they do have a retail consumer web-presence, that is not their bread and butter.

 

[JIO]

I have purchased wood body blanks from them, specifically roasted ash and am very pleased with the quality.

 

[bal704]

I'm not sure where you've seen bad reviews about BGP. When I was considering buying a neck from them, I had trouble finding ANY reviews, good or bad.

The neck I received was top-drawer.

 

[109eh]

I'm not sure where you've seen bad reviews about BGP. When I was considering buying a neck from them, I had trouble finding ANY reviews, good or bad.
The neck I received was top-drawer.

I'm sorry for my bad wrote comment. I did not refer me to BGP, but there are some aspects that worry me that I saw in reviews about others companies. I edited my comment
Thanks for your help!

 

[Terry Wilson]

I ask about the quality of the parts of BGP. For example: I saw review of others brand/builders (notthing about BGP) about improperly installed frets (cut the fret end of fingerboard, cavity poorly made), I saw arm having "irregularities" (high / low at some points of the back neck) and bad radius done. The wood dry is important too.
I read too about the cred at BGP work or worked at the two other builder...

I recently purchased a Tele P bass neck and body from BGP. I have a buddy who's a top notch luthier/bass/guitar builder...very high end who over saw my "putting together" of the Tele-P Bass....the wood, grain, feel on the parts are great. We stayed pretty simple with a Gotoh bass bridge...not the original design Fender bridge but the heavier but simple 4 string bridge.....TVJones Thundertron neck p/up in same position as the original Tele Bass....I put 3 year old LaBella Jamerson flats on the bass...have been playing it every day...not yet taking it to too many gigs. My fav is still my '61 P Bass with flats. I'm having an odd vibration/flutter noise from the new BGP completed bass when I hit a note...both fretted and open string notes. The lower the note the louder the flutter noise it is...it seems. I took the bass back to my luthier buddy and yesterday went through the instrument trying to locate the vibration/flutter noise. We can not locate the cause of this. You just ever so slightly hear the flutter noise via the p/ups through a good mic pre/DI...an API 3124 mic pre. I changed out the strings last night to a brand new set of LaBella Jamerson flats. We took the pickguard off the bass....tightened every screw on the bass...took the p/up out...Still can not stop the flutter noise. The only thing left is....is the truss rod vibrating and causing this. I don't know that it is...I've contacted BGP and haven't heard back yet.....waiting. My luthier buddy has built me 2 basses in the past and has always done my fret/set up work. Best fret/neck set up guy I've run across. I've lived in NY, Houston, London, LA....I've seen lots of great set up guys. IF anyone has ever run across this kind of flutter noise anomaly. Please let me know if you've any ideas what to check for...change. I'm not convinced it's BGP parts...the only theory we have left to prove or disprove is the truss rod. The weight...the feel of the BGP parts I got I'm very happy with. They are good to work with. It took a while to get the parts because they are busy....and I'm a little guy with only the one order. Truss rods are a simple design....I've heard this flutter vibration in the past on other basses I picked up and played in stores...now, I'm having to figure this out on my own dime after spending hours sanding, sealing, staining and putting this bass together. Any thoughts out there?

 

[bal704]

Can you take the strings off (to relieve tension) and feel the truss rod moving? I'm thinking if the truss rod was free to move in the neck, you should be able to feel it moving somehow.

Just throwing out ideas....

 

[BusyFingers]

Do anyone know or heard about the job of "Best Guitar Parts" (BGP) builder?
I'm searching a quartersawn maple neck, and BGP is 80 USS less than USACG, for example!
And BGP offers roasted maple neck, roasted swamp ash body ans a lot of custom options (specially for guitar neck)! I think how will be a roasted swamp ash body sound and weight?
Let's me know your opinion and your experience

Thanks for mentioning the. I had no idea they were an option, and it appears their neck builder template has covered every single option in terms of neck shape and fretboard radius. I was really surprised Warmoth hadn't bothered going into such details.

 

[Terry Wilson]

Can you take the strings off (to relieve tension) and feel the truss rod moving? I'm thinking if the truss rod was free to move in the neck, you should be able to feel it moving somehow.

Just throwing out ideas....

We took the neck off...and banged around on it. No obvious looseness there we could hear/find. I may try a different set of strings other than the LaBella flats...We made the pickguard from a blank I got from a pickguard supply/manufacturer....a name brand company...don't know but, it has what looks like a laminated edging...We thought...well...maybe its that. Took it off...nothing solved there. Short of taking the pots off....wiring out...pickups out? Don't know how else to check this. Try another neck ? The tuners are brand new...lightweight Fender looking style but smaller gear assembly behind the headstock face. I called BGP again today. No word from them yet on this. I'm sure they're thinking I'm crazy and maybe we don't know what we're doing. lol...maybe they're right!

 

[bal704]

Weird. I've had 3 of their necks, without issue, but everybody has a lemon I suppose.

 

[Terry Wilson]

Weird. I've had 3 of their necks, without issue, but everybody has a lemon I suppose.

I'm not sure…and don't mean to say I've had any problems that I know are BGP parts….the bass we put together feels great…plays great and the wood grain is beautiful….it feels as good as any neck/body combo I've had my hands on…but, my bass/guitar set up guy who I use is top notch and knows his stuff. Still haven't solved the vibration noise but, two different sets of strings just showed up…another set of LaBella flats…different model…and a new set of D'Addario rounds showed and I'm going to try 'em both on this Tele/P bass and see if either solves the issue. I have the P/Up low and high thing sorted I think…just adjusted the p/up pole height where the low end poles are higher …D & G string poles are lower now….simple enough. I don't remember the last time I had to adjust p/up height…these are new p/ups I've never tried before…The TVJones Thundertron Bass hum bucker….nice variation to have vs my '61 P Bass….

 

[thisSNsucks]

I bought some wood from them in the past. Great quality stuff

 

[ahc]

I recently purchased a Tele P bass neck and body from BGP. I have a buddy who's a top notch luthier/bass/guitar builder...very high end who over saw my "putting together" of the Tele-P Bass....the wood, grain, feel on the parts are great. We stayed pretty simple with a Gotoh bass bridge...not the original design Fender bridge but the heavier but simple 4 string bridge.....TVJones Thundertron neck p/up in same position as the original Tele Bass....I put 3 year old LaBella Jamerson flats on the bass...have been playing it every day...not yet taking it to too many gigs. My fav is still my '61 P Bass with flats. I'm having an odd vibration/flutter noise from the new BGP completed bass when I hit a note...both fretted and open string notes. The lower the note the louder the flutter noise it is...it seems. I took the bass back to my luthier buddy and yesterday went through the instrument trying to locate the vibration/flutter noise. We can not locate the cause of this. You just ever so slightly hear the flutter noise via the p/ups through a good mic pre/DI...an API 3124 mic pre. I changed out the strings last night to a brand new set of LaBella Jamerson flats. We took the pickguard off the bass....tightened every screw on the bass...took the p/up out...Still can not stop the flutter noise. The only thing left is....is the truss rod vibrating and causing this. I don't know that it is...I've contacted BGP and haven't heard back yet.....waiting. My luthier buddy has built me 2 basses in the past and has always done my fret/set up work. Best fret/neck set up guy I've run across. I've lived in NY, Houston, London, LA....I've seen lots of great set up guys. IF anyone has ever run across this kind of flutter noise anomaly. Please let me know if you've any ideas what to check for...change. I'm not convinced it's BGP parts...the only theory we have left to prove or disprove is the truss rod. The weight...the feel of the BGP parts I got I'm very happy with. They are good to work with. It took a while to get the parts because they are busy....and I'm a little guy with only the one order. Truss rods are a simple design....I've heard this flutter vibration in the past on other basses I picked up and played in stores...now, I'm having to figure this out on my own dime after spending hours sanding, sealing, staining and putting this bass together. Any thoughts out there?

Have you tried adjusting the pickup height? If the pup is too close to the strings it can cause a "wavering" anomaly. I don't know if the is the "flutter" you're having, but maybe.

 

[Terry Wilson]

On the p/up height….well…not really other than adjust the poles to even up the highs and lows…which was another concern …the D & G string were so much louder than the low E……and the A…but the E was mo' an issue than the A. I put my 3rd set of brand new strings on it…I wrote LaBella getting their feedback on "IF" string cores could do this because I had been told my a couple of player friends as well as another guitar set up guy here….Then these LaBella Deep Bottom flats…for some reason even though they were the exact string models as the other 2 seemed to have less circumference than the other 2 and the A string is now buzzing against the first fret. lol…the bass is haunted. Anyway…taking it now to a second set up guy who's one of the top guys in town. He's fascinated he said with the challenge of figuring this out. The feel of the bass and the playability of the BGP Tele-P bass is very cool and comfortable….Just working on this flutter…now buzz issue….will post again when I learn something different….

 

[Terry Wilson]

I recently purchased a Tele P bass neck and body from BGP. I have a buddy who's a top notch luthier/bass/guitar builder...very high end who over saw my "putting together" of the Tele-P Bass....the wood, grain, feel on the parts are great. We stayed pretty simple with a Gotoh bass bridge...not the original design Fender bridge but the heavier but simple 4 string bridge.....TVJones Thundertron neck p/up in same position as the original Tele Bass....I put 3 year old LaBella Jamerson flats on the bass...have been playing it every day...not yet taking it to too many gigs. My fav is still my '61 P Bass with flats. I'm having an odd vibration/flutter noise from the new BGP completed bass when I hit a note...both fretted and open string notes. The lower the note the louder the flutter noise it is...it seems. I took the bass back to my luthier buddy and yesterday went through the instrument trying to locate the vibration/flutter noise. We can not locate the cause of this. You just ever so slightly hear the flutter noise via the p/ups through a good mic pre/DI...an API 3124 mic pre. I changed out the strings last night to a brand new set of LaBella Jamerson flats. We took the pickguard off the bass....tightened every screw on the bass...took the p/up out...Still can not stop the flutter noise. The only thing left is....is the truss rod vibrating and causing this. I don't know that it is...I've contacted BGP and haven't heard back yet.....waiting. My luthier buddy has built me 2 basses in the past and has always done my fret/set up work. Best fret/neck set up guy I've run across. I've lived in NY, Houston, London, LA....I've seen lots of great set up guys. IF anyone has ever run across this kind of flutter noise anomaly. Please let me know if you've any ideas what to check for...change. I'm not convinced it's BGP parts...the only theory we have left to prove or disprove is the truss rod. The weight...the feel of the BGP parts I got I'm very happy with. They are good to work with. It took a while to get the parts because they are busy....and I'm a little guy with only the one order. Truss rods are a simple design....I've heard this flutter vibration in the past on other basses I picked up and played in stores...now, I'm having to figure this out on my own dime after spending hours sanding, sealing, staining and putting this bass together. Any thoughts out there?

 

[Terry Wilson]

Well, we took the BGP Tele-P bass apart...again. The tuners, the pots, the bridge, neck. We grinded the back of the bridge to make sure of complete metal to wood contact. I put on a brand new set of LaBalla's I got from Eric at LaBella...it's my 5th set of strings to try out. 2 different brand new sets of D'Addarios and now 3 sets of the preferred LaBellas...deep talking 50-110...and 50 - 109's. Every set of strings make the flutter vibration noise. Very clearly hear it on the E string at the 3rd-5th frets...but, it's there on other strings ...other fret positions. I also took the bass to another top set up LA guy...he spent an hour going through it. He hears it...he grinded the saddles down some to help with angle of strings behind the saddles in case there were any burrs or sharp points in the saddles that could contribute to the flutter vibrations. We changed out the volume pot because it had an odd "doink" tone to it when you thumped it when holding it ....no longer in the pot cavity. Our next option we feel...is try another neck. We are planning on getting a regular Fender standard chrome bass bridge and replace the Gotoh bridge. But, both luthier/set up guys doubt it's the bridge because they both examined the bridge closely...both know the Gotoh 4 String Bass Bridge (BB0008) and there's not much there to adjust...everything is making contact the way it's supposed to work. But, to rule out the bridge even after we've taken it off to check contact with wood and screwed down properly....I'm waiting on a new Fender style bridge ...just hate having to drill new holes into this great piece of wood because of the flutter. After the bridge experiment....only leaves the neck. The parts we've gotten from BGP feel, look, play just the way I had hoped....and I still haven't figure out anything that proves anything is wrong with the parts...Just have eliminated pretty much everything else that would cause the flutter noise. Again...you can barely hear it through my amp...it's clear to hear when I'm plugged into my API 3124 and my TubeWorks Tube DI in my studio. So, I'll post again when, if we 100% nail down what's causing the annoying vibration noise. I've written the nice people again and explained the latest on where I'm at with this new bass....I've asked them.."if I pay to ship it...would they try and figure this out?" I'm sure they have a neck handy to try out being that the neck cavities they make have a certain size for their necks...I've got 2 other Fender style necks...a P and a Jazz to try out..I have not received an answer from them as of yet... I know BGP make great parts...but, parts are just parts. They have to work when they are put together and that's the question....do all parts work together correctly when the buyer gets them...there's no way for the Warmouths, BGP and other parts manufacturers quality control to check every neck and body they ship out...without putting the parts together to see and hear what they're going to sound like...feel like once put together. It certainly would have been much easier to buy a factory built bass off the rack somewhere....Hopefully you can see the BGP Tele-P bass picture i just posted......

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[Brad Johnson]

I'd have no qualms about purchasing from them. They're great... very easy to work with IME.

 

[Terry Wilson]

Hey...BGP have been great. I have no qualms about buying from them...I'm only posting what I'm going through currently with this new bass made with brand new BGP parts...the neck and the body. I'm having an issue which i've heard before on other basses. I'm approaching this as an issue that is created by some part of this new bass that has some issue. This anomaly is a flutter vibration caused by the parts I have. I've gone through every part except replace the neck and the bridge. The vibration flutter has to be curable. It's also a problem ....if in fact it's the neck...OR the bridge....either part? The manufacturer should want to know of this. They should want to know something they've built is causing some odd vibration flutter that is unmusical ...If it's a design flaw...that is only exposed or created when it's coupled with some other part OR maybe...1 out of 1,000 parts have an issue. The manufacturer's are selling parts....parts that we buy and put together that should work....work the way that they are intended to work. I've got no proof it's the neck...the body...the bridge. But, it's there and it's not intended to be part of the sum of these parts. The parts all are beautifully cut, designed...and fit together amazingly nice. I'll post again when we find out what's causing this flutter vibration....I'm sure the nice people at BGP will work with me on this issue as they said they would. They've been great so far. I had originally posted this as a question seeking help from someone who's gone through this and knew the answer. lol....