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Is electric bass a guitar ?

Electric bass is a guitar ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 275 79.9%
  • No

    Votes: 69 20.1%

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The question itself doesn't really make any sense, because you're asking if it is correct to equate two terms, when each of those terms describes something different.

"Electric bass" and "bass guitar" are terms that indicate different features of the instrument.

"Electric bass" is used vs. "acoustic bass." Whether you use "electric" or "acoustic" depends on whether the instrument is designed to be played directly into an amplifier in order to acheive its intended tone, or whether it's designed to acheive its intended tone without amplification. The term differentiates between an electric and an acoustic, regardless of whether you're talking about a bass guitar or a double bass.

"Bass guitar" is used vs. "double (or 'upright' or 'stand-up') bass." Whether you use "guitar" or "double/upright/standup" depends on whether the instrument is a shorter scale instrument designed to be played largely horizontally, or a longer scale instrument designed to be played largely vertically.

There are acoustic double basses, electric double basses, acoustic-electric double basses, acoustic bass guitars, electric bass guitars, and acoustic-electric bass guitars – likely all within the catalog of most large full-range music shops. So, as you can see, the question is fundamentally flawed; it can't be directly answered as it was asked. Is electric bass a guitar? Yes, if it's a bass guitar...and no, if it's not a bass guitar.

If the question were to be rephrased as, "Should a bass guitar really be called a member of the guitar sub-family," I'd say yes. It's a type of guitar that uses a double bass range and tuning. It's a hybrid instrument, but it largely handles like, is constructed like, and resembles a guitar more so than it does a double bass.

Take this argument the other way, and look at higher ranged guitars. A tenor guitar is a guitar that, when tuned in the typical way, has about the same range as, and exactly the same tuning as, a viola. It's a hybrid of viola and guitar, but it is largely considered to be a guitar, not a plucked viola. Why? The way it is constructed, the way it is handled/played, and the general way it looks.

Bottom line: The sub-family of instruments that an instrument belongs to isn't simply determined by range, tuning, or place in the musical arrangement (i.e whether or not one instrument was historically designed to take the place of the other). Instruments that cross over in these criteria do not necessarily belong in the same sub-family of instruments. The sub-family to which an instrument belongs is largely determined by how the instrument is constructed and how it is handled/played. This is not just true of stringed instruments, but of brass, and most other types of instruments. For instance, a bass trumpet is called a bass trumpet, and a valve trombone is called a valve trombone, even though the standard versions of each cover almost exactly the same range of pitches. Why? In the physical sense, they are constructed slightly differently. Each is far closer to having the same construction as the other than a typical bass guitar is to having the same construction as a typical double bass...still, one is called the bass trumpet and the other is called the valve trombone.
 
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Is a stand up-Double bass a cello?
Is a cello a viola?
Is a viola a violin
Is the worlds smallest violin still a violin?...for people crying about semantics

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Semantics, shmenantics . . . . . .

To me, it's an electric bass guitar, a very distantly related nephew to a contrabass, the low 1/4 of the violin family. Related inasmuch as a piano would be to a Hammond B3, both have a keyboard, but that's about it.

I do remember a particular argument over naming conventions . . . . .

I once worked for a heavy equipment company, and in those bygone days, on Fridays, the mechanics would send the low man on the totem pole down to the Sack and Pack to return with several cases of Bud and a few half-gallons of adult beverages which they would consume in the locker room, long enough ago where this sort of thing at work after 5 on Friday was not an unusual thing . . . . .

Anyway, as the refreshments hit bottom, a rather heated argument developed over what was a 'motor' and what was an 'engine'. This see-sawed over topics like armature windings and pistons and cranks, etc., petroleum vs. electric power, you can imagine. Finally, the 'quiet guy' stood and commanded the attention of the stunned crowd (this guy was so laid-back, not all of us knew what his voice sounded like !), and said:

'Well, did you ever see anyone win the Indy 500 at the Indianapolis ENGINE Speedway?'

Game.
Set.
Match.
 
Yes, bass guitar, kind of like the mandolin or violin family. You have a mandolin, octave mandolin, mandocello and bass mandolin. All part of the same family. Guitar, bass guitar, same thing in my book.
 
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I don’t think of the bass as a "bass guitar", but rather as it’s own thing — a bass. As a lover of (among other things) jazz, 50s rock ‘n roll, folk music, classic country and roots rock, I see the bass as more of a convenient (and electrified) replacement for the stand up bass than as a deeper guitar.

If you watch videos from back in the day (early 50s and prior), the bass player in a band is playing a stand up (double bass). Fast forward a few years and a guy filling the same musical role is playing an electric bass. And then music and the instrument evolved from there.

Of course it’s more complicated than just that. First, the first electric basses were designed by Leo to be instruments that would be familiar to and easily playable by guitar players, allowing guitarists to switch back and forth. The roots of the physical instrument are as an offshoot of the guitar world, but with the 4 strings like a stand up bass. Then there’s that the electric bass has developed into its own thing technique-wise, sound-wise and musical role-wise. As the OP said, you don’t want to necessarily play the bass like a guitar. On the other hand, the electric bass absolutely allows for and typically includes things that aren’t part of the mainstream stand up bass world. I think it’s an intruiging question
 
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Obviously since it looks like a guitar it should be one, or that's what wikipedia says. But apart from somewhat sterile instrument family trees, I feel naming bass a guitar or rather giving it a guitar status leads to misconceptions that go beyond that.
It implies that if you know how to play guitar you somehow know how to play bass. That if you teach guitar you should somehow know how to teach bass.
I feel this is wrong, I mean the closest instrument I feel bass is related to is double bass not guitar ! If I get a second instrument it will be EUB for sure. I actually created some problems at the (small) music school where I get instruction because I asked the violin teacher (also a bassist) for instruction and not the guitar teacher, who is supposed to be in charge of bass instruction but not himself a bassist... and plays bass like a guitar (you know what I mean).

One point maybe in favour of electric bass not really belonging to a guitar family is that it is often played fretless whereas fretless guitars are (very ?) uncommon, in fact the very definition of a guitar states that it is fretted.

Sorry if the subject has been discussed before, it is obviously quite difficult to search forums based on "bass guitar" keyword.

Opinions anyone ?
Im absolutely agree with you. What if i tell you 90% of bass players out there are just guitar players who play guitar with bass.
Bass playing needs completely different attitude. To me electric bass is a Bass which built looks like a guitar.
 
It is a low-pitched, electronically equipped member of the guitar family. I've spent over half an hour typing a response to this thread and have determined there really is no better way for me to say it.

If someone asks if "that's a guitar" in my case, I tell them it's a bass. They get what I mean and no hairs are split.

It implies that if you know how to play guitar you somehow know how to play bass. That if you teach guitar you should somehow know how to teach bass.
Physically speaking, yes. Any bassist should easily be able to take a Stratocaster and have an idea how to use it. A guitar player could hop on a Jazz Bass and know how to use it. Because of tuning differences between the two, the swap may not sound good, but if you have an understanding of how the tunings work and how to apply them you should not have difficulty.

I get asked this plenty. Can I play guitar? Well, yeah, I can play it. Bar chords, some triads. A few melodies. However, don't ask me to take a gig on guitar. I can't play it well enough to do that.

On teaching: you must have a working knowledge of how to play what you're teaching. Tunings, positioning, all of that. Most non-musicians may not think about this. If they ask, we can tell.
 
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If instruments come in families, you have to ask what other instruments belong to the same family as the bass. It's common for other families of instruments to have a variety of members of various sizes, with the biggest members being the bass iteration. Make a trumpet big enough and you get a tuba. I can't think of any family of instruments you could say bass belongs to other than the guitar family, or electric guitar if you prefer.

Another way to think of it is from a perspective of luthiering genealogy. The people who made the first electric basses that our current specimens derive from were not already making double basses, and then decided to electrify them. There were early experiments to that effect, by Vega and Regal, but that's not where your P bass comes from. The first versions of the instruments we play were made by guitar manufacturers trying to design a bass-scale version of the electric guitars they already made.