In which case you are FAAAAAAR too young to be so myopic. You have a computer. Use it. I'm sure it'll clear up that case of the whinies that you and the OP seem to have.
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Is music getting worse, or am I getting old?
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In which case you are FAAAAAAR too young to be so myopic. You have a computer. Use it. I'm sure it'll clear up that case of the whinies that you and the OP seem to have.
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I believe that there are more options for finding music that reaches a vast portion of unique tastes now more than ever, just don't expect it to knock on your door.
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check out some music by some of the TBers for some, imo, very creative and extraordinarily good new music:
steve lawson
JMJ
Jauqo III-X with The Low C# Theory
michael manring
just hitting these guys online and surfing the links will open up a LOT of doors to good stuff, ime
steve lawson
JMJ
Jauqo III-X with The Low C# Theory
michael manring
just hitting these guys online and surfing the links will open up a LOT of doors to good stuff, ime
I think the flaw in the question is the bands chosen to represent "today's music". If you used the same criteria in, say, 1970... you'd get a list of acts that people barely even remember today. What makes something a classic is often a very different thing than that which makes them the number one hit on the top 20 countdown.
So, to answer your question, no.... I think music is alive and well today. A lot of new stuff I hear these days blows me away, but I can guarantee you I'm not hearing it on FM... or seeing it on the endcaps at Best Buy.
So, to answer your question, no.... I think music is alive and well today. A lot of new stuff I hear these days blows me away, but I can guarantee you I'm not hearing it on FM... or seeing it on the endcaps at Best Buy.
Why not? We have grown men bassists who listen to Lady Gaga (no offense, of course).
I'm just 22 and I feel the same way. I'd say a good 90% of my music on my laptop and CD players is 20+ years old.
I think a lot of it has to do with the big record labels not taking any chances these days. Oh, Soulja Boy was a big hit on so and so label? Let's find the next Soulja Boy! Oh, Nickelback is selling millions of records? Let's sign the next Nickelback!
I do think there was more major label experimentation in the 60s & 70s which led to bands like Zep, The Who, Grateful Dead, Neil Young, Floyd, and all those we love from that era... I think that experimentation has been lost on the major labels and is being picked up by the smaller/indie labels. The music is still there. It's just not out front.
I do think there was more major label experimentation in the 60s & 70s which led to bands like Zep, The Who, Grateful Dead, Neil Young, Floyd, and all those we love from that era... I think that experimentation has been lost on the major labels and is being picked up by the smaller/indie labels. The music is still there. It's just not out front.
Gaslight Anthem, Murder City Devils, Old Crow Medicine Show, Crooked Fingers, Devil Makes Three, Gallows, Avett Brothers, Mumford and Sons, Todd Snider, the list goes on and on, and that's just a few newish bands from the playlist that's up on my Itunes right now.
Old guys like The Boss, Dylan, and Tom Petty, and Bad Religion are putting out some of the best music of their careers these days.
You mention the Stones in the 60's but leave out Sonny & Cher and Pat Boone.
You talk about Floyd in the 70's but forget to mention the Village People.
Michael Jackson in the 80's but not Rockwell, or any of the other terrible atrocities that happened.
The 90's? The decade of the boy band. Popular music stinks for the most part. In any decade...
Old guys like The Boss, Dylan, and Tom Petty, and Bad Religion are putting out some of the best music of their careers these days.
You mention the Stones in the 60's but leave out Sonny & Cher and Pat Boone.
You talk about Floyd in the 70's but forget to mention the Village People.
Michael Jackson in the 80's but not Rockwell, or any of the other terrible atrocities that happened.
The 90's? The decade of the boy band. Popular music stinks for the most part. In any decade...
Thats because today has no Stones or Floyd, or Michael Jackson... only Village People and Rockwell.
The 90s were great btw- Boy Bands came around at the tail end of the 90s (which is when we were moving into the dreaded 00s). The 90s had Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Lenny Kravitz, Sheryl Crow, Sarah McLaughlin, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Beastie Boys, Oasis, Radiohead, Blur, Guns N Roses, Metallica, Megadeth, Clapton Unplugged, REM, U2, The Black Crowes... decade of Boy Bands... yeah...
OPBASSMAN1994 said:
seriously, you say there's nothing experimental happening? you say there's nothing creative?
and then you dare cite MUSE as something original and complex instead of all the other weird-ass music happening out there?
It's that we are currently on a forum on the internet, otherwise i'd guess that you don't have access to the internet at all.
I have noticed that this seems to be the case alot! (younger folks preferring the older music). My 26 year old son listens mostly to music from the 60's and 70's (Zep, Doors, etc.) because he says today's music "bites wangus" (as he puts it). I think that he means "sucks" although I have to admit, the phrase "bites wangus" has a bit more style to it.
All I have to do is say "Nickelback" when he is around, and he always says that the singer sounds like he is sitting on the toilet trying to push one out after three days of constipation. We both laugh!!
Dude, your getting old!!
Seriously, your not looking in the right places. I'd say thanks to file sharing/p2p, the RIAA is reeling and just trying to make as much money as fast as they can. They pump out what will sell the most, quality be damned. It's like the TV writer's strike a decade ago that led to the monsoon of reality TV series we have now. Interestingly, I credit the strike for getting "Lost" on the air- never would have happened a year before the strike and was one of the best shows ever made IMHO.
What we are lacking is the next Nirvana. In the past you could count on some band rebelling against the status quo (Black Sabbath, Sex Pistols, GNR, Nirvana) every 5-10 years that would spark thing up again. I can't think of anyone doing that now, probably because a) resources aren't there to properly develop said bands (see above), and b) the culture has trended more toward being "different', making the "alternative" commonplace.
That said, there is a TON of great music being made today. Avett Brothers, Red Sparowes, Isis, Them Crooked Vultures, Black Mountain, the Black Angels, just to name a few. They just aren't on the radio for the most part. Check out bands you like on Rhapsody or Pandora, and they will guide you somewhat to newer stuff made in the same vein as what you like.
Seriously, your not looking in the right places. I'd say thanks to file sharing/p2p, the RIAA is reeling and just trying to make as much money as fast as they can. They pump out what will sell the most, quality be damned. It's like the TV writer's strike a decade ago that led to the monsoon of reality TV series we have now. Interestingly, I credit the strike for getting "Lost" on the air- never would have happened a year before the strike and was one of the best shows ever made IMHO.
What we are lacking is the next Nirvana. In the past you could count on some band rebelling against the status quo (Black Sabbath, Sex Pistols, GNR, Nirvana) every 5-10 years that would spark thing up again. I can't think of anyone doing that now, probably because a) resources aren't there to properly develop said bands (see above), and b) the culture has trended more toward being "different', making the "alternative" commonplace.
That said, there is a TON of great music being made today. Avett Brothers, Red Sparowes, Isis, Them Crooked Vultures, Black Mountain, the Black Angels, just to name a few. They just aren't on the radio for the most part. Check out bands you like on Rhapsody or Pandora, and they will guide you somewhat to newer stuff made in the same vein as what you like.
What you're really saying is that today has no bands you like as much as the Stones. So, I guess for YOU, music is getting worse. Of course there is no equivalent to the Stones today, but what's wrong with that? Are you saying you want another pop band from europe that's heavily influenced by american blues and that plays guitar-driven rock and parties a lot? The Rolling Stones happened already, man. Now we have bands influenced by the Rolling Stones. If the new bands aren't up to your standards of what rock should sound like, keep listening to the classics. I'm sure you haven't completely run out of tunes.
Also, out of all the bands you listed as good 90's acts, I like maybe 3. SUBJECTIVE is the key phrase here. Your list makes me think the 90's sucked even worse than I previously considered.
I played tons of Zep music in cover bands back in the 70's. I learned JPJ's bass lines note for note. JPJ was one of my all time favorite bassists (still is!!). So when I went to listen to his new band TCV, I was expecting to be impressed. I wasn't. (and no, I wasn't expecting to hear a Zep clone band....I was just expecting to hear high-level music). Instead, I found myself asking "what the he!! was JPJ thinking???.....why is he playing garage band material with a bunch of dweebs?"
I tried to like it. Really I did. But I just couldn't get past the extreme simplicity of the structure of the music. It was so basic. It was so......"high school" level.
I will always greatly admire JPJ as he is one of the all time greats.
IMO of course!
The radio is selling to the dirtbags of every walk of life. If you aren't hearing what makes you happy on the radio it means you are better off sticking to other means. Radio sucks, when will people learn this?
