JAD FREER SARTO

[rcmbass]

Thoughts?

 

[wolffire99]

I actually think this a useful pedal to have after a multifx on a compact board setup. Essentially a hands on global eq you can access without going into menus and remains constant across any preset.

 

[carsonchilders]

Thoughts?

this demo guy sucks

 

[rcmbass]

this demo guy sucks

Far from it. One of my fav guys on YouTube.

 

[carsonchilders]

Shucks

 

[Mighty Thumb]

It's great to see more options like this becoming available. Could be great on a compact board paired with a nice comp and some dirt.

 

[andare]

Sarto means tailor.

 

[Jazzdogg]

Three questions, please:

Can this pedal drive a power amp?
What's the input impedance?
What's the price point?

 

[projectapollo]

This is similar to the Trickfish Minnow preamp and DI. The minnow has 4 band lovely eq but no variable HPF. The minnow is larger but I'm guessing cheaper and no import fees and made and serviced in the USA.

 

[logdrum]

How much like 500?

 

[Jazzdogg]

The Sarto isn't shown on their website. But, it's big brother, the Capo, lists for 550 pounds, or about $740 US.

 

[Zbysek]

It reminds me of Broughton Messenger jr..

 

[logdrum]

The Sarto isn't shown on their website. But, it's big brother, the Capo, lists for 550 pounds, or about $740 US.

I thought the capo was 900 but maybe that has gone down -- anyway that pedal is already available at Fat Bass Tone for 485 - so I was close

Anyway -- I am really into the transformer brand and I'd like to know what it is. So I am gonna stick with a DI that tells me what it is like Sushi does if you are going to charge that much.

Also not sure if the midrange sweep should go all the way to 10K and for treble do you really need 10K ?- 5Hz for HPF seems useless

 

[Jarto]

Interesting if around 250€, if it's 400 like the Luce is a no for me

 

[needmorebasss]

I got the mail too and it's available for 420€

 

[Jarto]

I got the mail too and it's available for 420€

Holy smokes, easy pass for me

 

[gson]

Impedance: 10 MΩ

At a first glance the features remind me of the Fishman platinum stage EQ/DI Analog preamp pedal, i.e piezo focus.

Interesting to see how it compares to other piezo preamp pedals. Recently bought a Esopus archtop bass and am looking for this kind of pedal.

 

[projectapollo]

Fat Bass Tone has the Sarto at $480.
They have the Trickfish Minnow at $369.
Broughton Messenger Jr (out of productions) was $195.
The MXR M81 preamp/DI is a similar product at $195.
JHS has the Clover preamp/DI at $199.

I owned the Messenger and Minnow and MXR in a previous preamp shootout. The Minnow was way better sounding, more natural or musical. The Broughton sounded sterile and solid state to me. The MXR was serviceable, but the bass control useful range was small.

Fat bass Tone also has:
the CAPO at $609.
Luce is $465.

 

[rcmbass]

Jad Freer Sarto Studio Clean Bass Preamp, EQ & DI Pedal

Shop the Jad Freer Sarto Studio Clean Bass Preamp featuring transparent tone, resonant high-pass filter, flexible EQ, balanced XLR DI and ultra-high input impedance.

fatbasstone.com

 

[tidbits]

What differentiates this from the Bass ParaEQ other than the preamp/DI label, the way the eq controls work and the actual XLR? I use a RNDI when using the empress so I don't worry about the XLR and I prefer the way you have a parametric eq while controlling the Q of the curve. I don't see this as adding anything I really need so I was wondering if anyone could see anything I was possibly missing feature wise from this. I have to admit I didn't watch the video (I definitely will later) but I know how "end of the chain" pedals work and their uses. I have 2 color boxes a bass rig Super Vintage and my Empress/RNDI for the rear end of my board now, I don't think I need this but I love Jad Freer's products and designs.

I think you've hit some of the main differences already, but I'll repeat some of them just for completeness:

• Preamp - Both appear to transparent boxes without baked in color. The Sarto appears to have a proper level control, allowing boost and cut controls. The Bass ParaEQ has a switchable boost control, which of course can increase output levels if needed, but has no way to attenuate the overall signal below unity.
• EQ controls - The Sarto has selectable corner frequences for it's shelving type bass/treble, and a semi-parametric mid. The Bass ParaEQ has the dynamic bass shelf, that gradually and musically slides the corner frequency higher as you increase the level, treble is fixed. Of course, it has 3 fully parametric bands in addition.
• Filters - The Sarto features a slight resonant bump baked into the HPF, a nice 1 knob affair. The Bass ParaEQ could approximate this as well by combining the HPF/Bass controls. It also has a LPF.
• Input impedance - 10M Ohm on the Sarto. Selectable on the Bass ParaEQ between 1M or 10M Ohm.
• Outputs - The Sarto has separate unbalanced 1/4 and balanced XLR, with a polarity switch to help with potential phase issues. The Bass ParaEQ has an automatic balanced/unbalanced 1/4 out, but doesn't offer a second output.

The Sarto has a quite the impressive featureset for a one box solution, but unless there's something here you can't live without you're probably good to keep rolling with the Bass ParaEQ/RNDI combo. I've been in love with my ParaEQ mkII (and now Bass ParaEQ) + DI combo since I've had it. I pair mine with a Finally V2 for a touch of tube character and separate level controls on the 1/4 and XLR out.