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Jad Freer Sisma Mega Thread.

The ability to plug into the return and just get a clean class G amp is one of the neat qualities of the Sisma. I have 2 of them that I run in stereo and it is a great option to either have the “tube” tone or the “clean” tone from the exact same amp just depending on where you want to plug in. If you run the Capo in front of the return input it also sounds awesome.
That’s a smart and a great idea. I do this with my Noble into my TH500 return all the time. But being that the Sisma is going to be way better for me on the power amp/ tube tone preamp sound… I think the TH will be retired soon
 
Are you guys trying to get me to spend like $4k on a new amp and cab?!
Honestly no. I really hope no one has financial difficulties because of me :smug:.

I bought Sisma and the Barefaced cab at a time when I had received a large sum of money from an insurance company, and I decided to spend some of it on bass gear. (I can't say I was lucky, because it was a compensation for a serious accident). At the time, I've also bought other fancy gear that I've sold since and I wouldn't recommend them obviously.

So yes, if you can afford it without financial compromises, it's really a great amp. But you should not buy it if you struggle. Let's not forget that we can make great music even with a Squier and a Fender Rumble.

And… Don't forget we're on talkbass, it's part of the game.
 
Are you guys trying to get me to spend like $4k on a new amp and cab?!
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Interestingly, you can plug directly into the Sisma's power amp through the effects return and get a very clean sound that, to me, lacks the same thump, a tone much more similar to the WD-800.
I found this to be true. In fact I did run the WD preamp out to the Sisma power amp in, and the Sisma preamp into the WD power amp in.

My findings were the WD into the Sisma sounded like the WD and the Sisma into the WD sounded like the Sisma. Maybe on a granular lever there was some difference in the bedroom but not enough to hear in a band situation.

I liked the Sisma but not enough to sell my beloved WD or to refinance my house to get it. The overall sound of it was great and powerful but there are things I still liked about the WD that I would miss more than just having the Sisma alone. If I were able to afford both, I would have both 😊
 
Honestly no. I really hope no one has financial difficulties because of me :smug:.

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So yes, if you can afford it without financial compromises, it's really a great amp. But you should not buy it if you struggle

And… Don't forget we're on talkbass, it's part of the game.
No worries here. I am no longer gigging so I don't really need to get another nice amp that won't get gigged with. However, if your feeling generous... :)
 
After spending much time with my Capo, I'm very interested in the Sisma and Volta. My current and first tube amp is the Super Bassman 300 with a 410, I love the richness I get tonally but the thought of gigging with this thing does not sound appealing, just too damn heavy. I love the compact form factor of the Sisma and even the Volta, 29-30 pounds is pretty light for an all tube head.

Hoping to snag one of them in the near future along with one of JF's cabs. Not sure which, I'm leaning toward the Venere line for a more neutral response but some of the samples I've heard of the Minerva cabs sound wonderful. Jad Freer makes some amazing gear.
 
Not side by side... but my experience is as follows.

I bought the Demeter and used it for one gig (Moollon P and Barefaced Super Twin) and then sold it. It sounded great at home, but couldn't hang on stage. Granted, it was a rock gig with amps and a full PA... but I was completely reliant on the monitors and the house mix. The amp didn't even need to be there.

I bought the Sisma and it became my go-to amp for almost every gig. I consistently used the same P, but now have a Super Compact. This is my perfect rig.

I love the Sisma so much that I am considering spending the $4k for a Volta. I don't have a need for an amp that powerful, nor do I have $4k to just toss around. So, it's not a likely proposition at the moment... but if there was a need...

As info, my previous go-to was the same Moollon P into a Noble, into the preamp of a Darkglass MT900 v1 (EQ set flat, but utilizing the gain structure) through the Super Twin (all pictured in my avatar). I generally plug straight into the amp without the use of pedals (though I'm not opposed). I generally played blues with this rig.
 
Not side by side... but my experience is as follows.

I bought the Demeter and used it for one gig (Moollon P and Barefaced Super Twin) and then sold it. It sounded great at home, but couldn't hang on stage. Granted, it was a rock gig with amps and a full PA... but I was completely reliant on the monitors and the house mix. The amp didn't even need to be there.

I bought the Sisma and it became my go-to amp for almost every gig. I consistently used the same P, but now have a Super Compact. This is my perfect rig.

I love the Sisma so much that I am considering spending the $4k for a Volta. I don't have a need for an amp that powerful, nor do I have $4k to just toss around. So, it's not a likely proposition at the moment... but if there was a need...

As info, my previous go-to was the same Moollon P into a Noble, into the preamp of a Darkglass MT900 v1 (EQ set flat, but utilizing the gain structure) through the Super Twin (all pictured in my avatar). I generally plug straight into the amp without the use of pedals (though I'm not opposed). I generally played blues with this rig.
I confirm Sisma + Barefaced Super Compact = 😍 (although I'm playing very different basses, all with 2 x humbuckers)
 
I agree about the Demeter. I had one that sounded like magic at low volumes. Live it just didn't cut through and feel like it had beef/heft to it. It felt too nice and was easy swallowed by the rest of the band.

IMO the Demeter and the Sisma are VERY different. Sisma is more muscle/can get big and dirty. Demeter (to me, the flip top inspired I had with the matching Demeter cab) felt nice/classy/soft/polite. But this is from memory years ago.
 
Interesting. I've used my 800 with a Barefaced Super Twin 2x12 for a few months. I'm against a Peavy 50 watt guitar amp and a very strong drummer. Hard to imagine the amp got lost unless the room was huge. or there were other players to the mix. I guess you'd have to be there .

The reason I'm asking is that there's a Sisma in my area for $1400 including the case. They are new at around $1800.
 
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I agree about the Demeter. I had one that sounded like magic at low volumes. Live it just didn't cut through and feel like it had beef/heft to it. It felt too nice and was easy swallowed by the rest of the band.

IMO the Demeter and the Sisma are VERY different. Sisma is more muscle/can get big and dirty. Demeter (to me, the flip top inspired I had with the matching Demeter cab) felt nice/classy/soft/polite. But this is from memory years ago.

Too polite and easily swallowed by the rest of the band are both VERY accurate in my experience with the Demeter. The Sisma freaking slays at any volume I’ve tested her at.
 
Interesting. I've used my 800 with a Barefaced Super Twin 2x12 for a few months. I'm against a Peavy 50 watt guitar amp and a very strong drummer. Hard to imagine the amp got lost unless the room was huge. or there were other players to the mix. I guess you'd have to be there .

The reason I'm asking is that there's a Sisma in my area for $1400 including the case. They are new at around $1800.

“The room” was a big outside stage… but I expect all of my amps to be able to handle outside events and big/small venues. And with the lack of presence I experienced with the Demeter I had, I just wasn’t enough for this gig.

I agree that 800 watts through a Super Twin should be PLENTY for just about any situation… which brings us to exactly why I sold it.
 
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