Jazz bass patent sketch?

[Brian Reading]

Is this in fact the Jazz bass patent sketch? I posted this on Wikipedia for the Jazz bass article, but a bunch of other editors keep removing it, and now it's ended up on the Precision bass article here. I'm pretty sure that this sketch isn't for the P-Bass even though it resembles the 60's models, but I need some reassurance as I don't remember my original source for this information.

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[JustJeffJr.]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but it kinda looks like every P-Bass I've ever seen, and thats a lot of P-Basses.

 

[svenbass]

That not a Fender Jazz in any way, shape, or form.

 

[Mark Wilson]

I think that's a p-bass.

 

[Brian Reading]

I guess my source was just flawed. I figured it could've looked like a P-Bass because it was the baseline for the Jazz.

Anyone know if a patent sketch exists for the Jazz then?

 

[Siegy]

Just curious, what made you think this was for a jazz?

 

[Brian Reading]

Just curious, what made you think this was for a jazz?

Read my last post. It makes some logical sense. Not to mention, old Fender Jazz basses carried the same patent number as the P-Bass.

 

[GeneralElectric]

Read my last post. It makes some logical sense. Not to mention, old Fender Jazz basses carried the same patent number as the P-Bass.

But it looks exactly like a P-Bass

 

[Brian Reading]

But it looks exactly like a P-Bass

I'm aware of that. Patent sketches don't always follow the finished products.

 

[svenbass]

Have you ever seen a Fender Jazz Bass? They have two pickups, three knobs, (except for the 61/62 stack knob) a very different pickguard, an offset body shape and different pickup covers.

The drawing you provide is an exact rendition of a Fender Precision. There is absolutely nothing there that suggests it is a Fender Jazz bass.

If this is a Patent drawing for a Jazz then the artist was stoned out of their mind, and is useless.

 

[GeneralElectric]

I'm aware of that. Patent sketches don't always follow the finished products.

I'm aware but it also isn't any different than the 3rd or 4th generation P-Basses that were around the time of the Jazz bass.

I'm pretty sure that patent sketches don't mimic old products with no differences whatsoever.

At least in most companies.


It is the 56 PAT pending drawing you have right there. I have a copy framed at my house. That bass hit the market in 1957, renovated a year later with a rosewood fretboard (OK year and a half) and then redone again with different pickups come 1960 and a different pickguard in early-mid 60. Then again in 63 when they no longer had slab rosewood fretboards.

Ta-da.

 

[Brian Reading]

I'm aware but it also isn't any different than the 3rd or 4th generation P-Basses that were around the time of the Jazz bass.

I'm pretty sure that patent sketches don't mimic old products with no differences whatsoever.

At least in most companies.


It is the 56 PAT pending drawing you have right there. I have a copy framed at my house. That bass hit the market in 1957, renovated a year later with a rosewood fretboard (OK year and a half) and then redone again with different pickups come 1960 and a different pickguard in early-mid 60. Then again in 63 when they no longer had slab rosewood fretboards.

Ta-da.

No need to be rude. I'm not trying to argue here, I was simply stating why I thought what I did. Not to mention, I've seen this information elsewhere. Again, I'm just trying to get accurate information here. Where's the Jazz bass patent sketch? Does it exist? By the way, this wasn't from '56. It was filed in '59, and issued in '60. Says so right [Invalid or Expired Link Removed].

 

[GeneralElectric]

No need to be rude. I'm not trying to argue here, I was simply stating why I thought what I did. Not to mention, I've seen this information elsewhere. Again, I'm just trying to get accurate information here. Where's the Jazz bass patent sketch? Does it exist? By the way, this wasn't from '56. It was filed in '59, and issued in '60. Says so right [Invalid or Expired Link Removed].

I've got a similar one that says 56 PAT pending I got as a gift. I'm guessing slightly slimmer contours, the rosewood board, the alder body, new neck profile, the new shielding plate with the celluloid cover and the new P-pup were good enough reasons to apply for a new patent

Sorry if I was rude but I was just wow. If you posted this during normal EST hours this would've been a few pages by now, and people are generally a lot more scathing than I am.

I have several P-Bass ones (1-3 generations) and I have both Jazz ones. Stack knob one says 59.

 

[bass_fish]

No need to be rude..

he's not rude, he's just pointing out that your post is utterly miss informed and just plain wrong....
if you think that's a jazz, you're stoned out of your mind, no mater what your source of info is

 

[roadkill2309]

Funny thing: If Fender ever built a P that followed those lines for the upper horn and headstock exactly, we'd all be yelling 'FAKE!'

 

[dakpluto]

My brain cells decreased reading this.

 

[thelowmax]

I've been looking for the Jazz patent for quite a while. All resources have the sketch that you posted, listed as the Jazz. The information, dates, and obviously the sketch, all match that of the Precision. This patent was filed in 1960. It's very strange.

 

[newbold]

So is it a patent sketch?

(fack)

 

[vinxbass]

Dude, that's a frick'n P-Bass 100%.

 

[mrjim123]

The string spacing near the nut does look more jazz than P, but everything else is P.