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Jazz songs that I should expect to learn?

Notation, or chords - either is fine, and chords work well to make your brain look ahead and figure out how to get to the next chord. Playing the dots as written isn't jazz - reading the style and the rhythm and then playing your own version of the dots, within that style, is jazz. Playing root and fifth, with an occasional octave is a non-bass players version of the song, often found in iffy transcriptions. As for playing the Tenor Sax part? Maybe Baritone would give you those nice low pushes and honks, but tenor sax, written for a sax player is often horrible on a bas guitar.

Jazz is the 'whole'. If you play Autumn Leaves with a right hand prominent pianist, you can do some flourishy stuff, but if your pianist is left hand clever, then you need to stick to straight playing. That's what makes it so much fun. never the same if any player changes - space suddenly appears for somebody to stick something into.
 
And then learn them in every key, because you never know when a singer's going to say, "I only sing April in Paris in B."

eventually, yes. but for someone who doesn't know the changes to all the things you are yet, i dont think he needs to worry about learning tunes in every key yet- that comes later i'd say. and it's more of a practice of being able to transpose on the spot and thinking in roman numberals as opposed to "F minor, B b minor," ext.

listen to a lot of jazz. notice the tunes you hear more often- and particularly, the ones you like, and the ones you see the most potential with. learn those first.

you'll need to tackle every tune mentioned in this thread so far, so i wont add anymore.

good luck!

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No.
No, I don't think you do.

But that's OK, it's just one less on the train.

Good luck with that. Have a Blessed Day.

aww ed he's just a kid. ill link a tune that i recommend. i thought long and hard about which one, and for me, this version of this tune changed everything for me first time i heard it. i still remember. listen to the bass solo, but the whole tune as well.

 
aww ed he's just a kid. ill link a tune that i recommend. i thought long and hard about which one, and for me, this version of this tune changed everything for me first time i heard it. i still remember. listen to the bass solo, but the whole tone as well.



Dude,thanks man! I like what I hear lol.I'm already working on some tunes you guys posted and I picked up a Jazz bass book at my public library (I'm really doing everything I can to get better at this,I don't just want to be a rock/metal bass player). I know I'm really going have to stay committed to get better,but I have time and I'm really patient.
 
Dude,thanks man! I like what I hear lol.I'm already working on some tunes you guys posted and I picked up a Jazz bass book at my public library (I'm really doing everything I can to get better at this,I don't just want to be a rock/metal bass player). I know I'm really going have to stay committed to get better,but I have time and I'm really patient.

Just realized you're just starting out here-welcome! :)
Go and check out www.jazzbooks.com and www.shermusic.com for some leads on great Jazz Books. Also iGigBook and iRealB are great Apps for your Smartphone or iPhone and iPad that have a lot of chord changes for Jazz Standards available in a playalong format. Phil Smith on the TB Forum is the developer of the iGigBook.
For beginning Jazzers, I have used this sequence of tunes with good results:
Blue Bossa
So What
Autumn Leaves
Tune Up
All the Things You Are
That sequence leads you in an easy way into thinking about tunes with progressively more challenging chord changes and will set you up to go in a lot of different directions. If you learn a tune a week at the end of the year you'll know 52 Jazz Standards. Happy Jazzing! :)
 
Are you familiar with I-IV-V, II-V-I notation? It's seriously the backbone of transposing keys of songs.


When I started out, I'd pick a short section of a song (eg. 8 bar A Section) and write the chords along the first line of manuscript paper. The next line I'd transpose it to another key, & repeat until I'd rewritten it in all 12 keys. I found writing it down an important step.


THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP however was I'd then play it in all 12 keys until I was fluent thinking AND playing it in every key. In those two steps I had memorised/ internalised the chord changes.



After 10 songs I got really quick at it. After 20-30 songs I didn't need to write them down anymore they just started to 'stick'. You see common chord patterns repeat in most songs.

Stay alert and you'll also start to pick up nuances of chord voicings, phrasing, etc. As you start 'hearing' these ideas more yourself, you'll maybe start to insert these ideas into other songs.


This is often mentioned but glanced over, but it really helped me to unlock the mystery of Jazz and helped me develop the 'mindset' of jazz that you asked about in OP.

Good luck! :thumbup: