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Jeff Berlin Bass Education Packages

He really is a top guy.

There is a good podcast series getting underway at the Jeff Berlin Bass Education website which I would recommend you check out if you're getting into the course. Jeff really drills down into the detail of the courses there, discussing how they build on each other and what you can get out of them. It's particularly illuminating in the second podcast where Jeff says that his duty as a teacher is to assume full responsibility for the learning of his students. This guy puts it all on the line for us! What a statement of intent. I've always hugely respected Jeff as an educator but now, studying under him on this course, I see the regard he has for his students firsthand.

I'm working slowly on the first package and the beauty of this is that I can go at my own pace, I can make mistakes and I can learn slowly but surely. Some days, I can only pick a bass up for 15 minutes at a time so it reassures me that I can refer to professionally prepared material to ensure that even if I do just practice for a quarter of an hour, I get something out of it. I've found learning to read music so empowering. I am driven and astounded by my own success.

I really hope that everyone can get as much out of this course as I have.
 
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I did a one week intensive with Jeff 5 years ago. Jeff has a way of cutting to where you are in your playing very quickly. It was eye opening, and well worth the week of my time and the dollars spent.

Jeff is a no nonsense guy when it comes to music, but in person is one of the funniest, nicest guys you will ever meet.
I got the exact same impression from Skype lesson with him.
 
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99 bucks for a basic sight reading course? And another 99 bucks to include sharps and flats? For that money I can buy A LOT of sightreading methods.

So what is the secret sauce? Not trying to troll, but giving Jeff and the people who already own the packages the chance to explain the qualities of the product.

I think the two packages are pretty comprehensive and by the end you’re doing some fairly complex reading. If you went through them all you’d be reading quite well. So, the question for me is “would you pay $198 dollars to be able to read well”. For me, the answer was “yes”. Perhaps the special sauce is being able to leverage off Jeff’s many years of successful bass education experience.
 
Can you provide a link for the lesson packages? There is no shortcut and over the years Jeff has always tried to steer people towards the fundamentals that will give them the skills to be a real musician. You have the right attitude. Congratulations and good luck.

I know you properly didn't intend to offend anyone.

Non the less I feel slightly offended by your wordings.

May I ask what makes a real musician as opposed to a fake one?
 
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@BrotherMister Good sir! I just wanted to check in to see how you’re progressing with the packages. Please let us know!

It sounds as if there isn’t too much in the way of fingerings along with the lessons/etudes but I may be off base with that. Do you know if Jeff generally a proponent of one finger per fret?

Anyone else here in TB taking the plunge with these courses? I must say I have generally been out off by all the drama surrounding Jeff, but after watching a bunch of videos and listening to the podcasts, I’m warming to him. He seems to come across differently to me in that medium than in text alone.
 
Anyone else here in TB taking the plunge with these courses? I must say I have generally been out off by all the drama surrounding Jeff, but after watching a bunch of videos and listening to the podcasts, I’m warming to him. He seems to come across differently to me in that medium than in text alone.

Heyo. I've been putting together a practice regimen for myself, and purchased Jeff Berlin Bass Education Package 1 as a part of it. I've played bass for 20 years and while I know what a flatted 7th note is, I've never read a note of music. I figured it was time to finally fix that.

In the spirit of the first post here from @BrotherMister I've been working on extending beyond just what's given. Lesson 1 is the natural notes in first position on each string. It doesn't include the B string of a 5er, so I created my own B string etude on flat.io and have been using it to ensure that I do the work across every string of my bass. Adding in the B string might get more involved in later etudes.. we'll see if I can keep that up.
 
[QUOTE="ErikP.Bass, post: 21483069, member:

Anyone else here in TB taking the plunge with these courses? [/QUOTE]

I'm a beginer student. I'm a bit old school in that I have the highest respect for the way classical music has been taught, learned and performed for hundreds of years. The proof is in the pudding and I don't see a need to build a better mousetrap. I believe that with classical study and talent one's musical skills can be applied to playing any genre. So Jeff's philosophy of reading music resonated well with me. I am happy with my progress with his package one etudes. I also signed up for his "Office Hours" and he was very generous with his time with me and genuine and helpful with his suggestions. Having a facetime chat with one of my Bass Mentors was a valuable experience for me. I can confidently endorse Jeff's study material as a good value.
 
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I'm not here to start a discussion on Jeff's playing or his philosophies. His chord tone book, or even better is the Trombone book he based it off, is one of the better books I've used to develop. So with that in mind I recently took the hit and purchased his lesson packages to see what he was up to with this stuff. For anyone interested in them or not knowing what they entail I'll give you a quick rundown of my initial thoughts.

Package 1 - Reading

The first package is pretty much getting your skills as a reader developed. It starts at the absolutely basics of whole notes on the first few frets on the E string and each lesson includes a a handful of etudes dealing with a specific subject such as half notes. Each lesson gradually develops to and the etudes within focus on the next subject. It's laid out in a super methodical manner for example quarter notes don't appear until you have mastered etudes that deal with a mix of whole notes, half notes, their respective rests and ties etc. So it's one of the better things I've came across to help people get off the ground with their reading, which is something I do a lot with my students.

To begin with there are a few fingering suggestions but as the lessons develop these gradually start to disappear entirely and you are left to work out your own.

I've spent the past month doing a handful of theatre shows so my reading is pretty solid but even I was thrown by some of the reading involved in the later lessons. There are 24 lessons in that package but by about 21 the etudes are doing some pretty complex reading.

For anyone whose reading is pretty solid I'd say this package could be skipped out but you can still take the simpler reading exercises and mix them up. They are all written in 4 so I played a lot of the half note ones earlier in 5. All I did was make one half note a dotted one and kept the other normal to make the bar split into 3 + 2 and vice versa. Plenty of ways to take even the simplest material and make it work for you.


Package 2 - Flats & Sharps


This package reminds me of the Simandl book. You basically get a key and a few etudes written in that key. Each lesson has the etude written with a key signature as well as the same etude written with accidentals which I think is a nice inclusion. Reading a C# major etude as accidentals is a bit of a roast but in my experience that's almost always how it crops up in reading gigs as a brief passages through that key rather than an out and out key change.

These etudes are deceptive. They read extremely simple but they very quickly present a series of problems that the player has to find solutions to, in order to execute some of the passages you have to change where and how you play things. It's all too easy to read a few bars and fall into playing it all down the business end until you realise that passage has a few awkward jumps that lead up to the dusty end. This has been a pleasant surprise actually as I had to really dig into some of the etudes and work out the most effective ways of getting from point a to point b as smoothly as possible.

There are 14 lessons in this package, each lesson contains a handful of etudes as per the last.

Don't expect this stuff to be the most exciting musical examples you'll ever hear they are pretty dry and written with specific purposes. You'll be forced to work and think more about what's happening on the fingerboard and really forces you to break out your comfort zone. I took one of the etudes in F major and played the first section in all 12 keys which opens up a whole other set of problems for you to over come.

Package 3 - Various Scales

This package is pretty much a straight up study of modes/chord scales. Straight off the bat the first lesson is a Lydian workout.

Much the same as the previous package these look like straight forward read but present technical problems you have to start thinking about.

There are 14 lessons in this package, all with various etudes within, they are all written in C. Thereby forcing the player to take them through all 12 keys.


Package 4 - Chord Tones
For anyone that knows anything on Jeff he's pretty big on his chord tones, something I do agree with him on.

I'd say if you have the Trombone book, Jeff's chord tone book or seen that article from Bass Player years ago with the chord tones then this package is very much an expansion of those, in a good way. I'd say the books are more depth but these etudes are challenging. He basically gives you 4 bars of each etude and the player is left to work out the rest so you have to do some thinking again. Expect these etudes to be a bit of a roast.

Package 5 - Approach Notes

Package 5 is almost split in two. The first section pretty much picks up where the 4th finished. You are given the chord quality and etudes focusing on the various approaches above and below the chord tones. This includes chromatics, scale tones, double chromatics above and below etc.

The next half of the package is longer lines comprising of approach notes. This moves a bit more into 'jazz' territory. You get them starting on the 3rd/5th/7th etc and going round the cycle of 4ths and 5ths. Later on you get longer lines over chords. The package finishes with a bunch of major and minor ii V I lines and you are left to transpose them into all keys.

This package is a bit of a difficult one and requires a lot of shedding but as well as fluidity on the instrument your ear will start to develop as you start to hear the changes as well. It's without a doubt the hardest of the packages but if you spend time with it you'll undoubtably benefit, or at least become a hell of a player in the process.


Overall thoughts

Along with each package you are sent a link to videos of Jeff playing an etude from each of the lessons. I've not really checked many of them out, Jeff's approach to executing some of these etudes is just one of the possible ways of playing them. I'm trying to solve the problems on my own first and comparing it to how Jeff approaches them.

None of this stuff is going to make you rip of Giant Steps in 7 in all 12 or make you slap like Marcus etc It isn't homeant to do that. They are pretty much exactly what they are and what you make of them, if you don't want to put the work in then I'd say you'll get a good bit of milage out of them but if you really dig in and approach it the way Jeff wants you to then you'll have years of material in any one of those packages. They are definitely designed to be studied alongside all the other stuff we are working on rather than being a singular source for us.
 
how do you plan to approach this enormous amount of material?
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One etude at a time.

Not being smart, i'm on Package 2 and that's how I've been doing it. I practice one etude at a time, until I can play it without making any mistake, before I move to the next lesson/etude.

The lessons really helps my F clef reading. I can read G clef with no problem, but F clef was difficult for me until I purchased and study Jeff Berlin's educational material. It helps me a lot.
 
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One etude at a time.

Not being smart, i'm on Package 2 and that's how I've been doing it. I practice one etude at a time, until I can play it without making any mistake, before I move to the next lesson/etude.

The lessons really helps my F clef reading. I can read G clef with no problem, but F clef was difficult for me until I purchased and study Jeff Berlin's educational material. It helps me a lot.
I signed up for the course also. Looks very challenging. I think this will help me improve.
 
I signed up for the course also. Looks very challenging. I think this will help me improve.

Many folks seem to take a year on each package. Of course it depends on the time you put in. I'm a year on Package One and only on Lesson 18. My progress is slow as I only play a few hours a week, and I am applying the method to learning 3/4 scale fretless electric upright. I'm certain my reading skills would have developed faster had I stuck to my trusty ole fretted electric bass guitar. None the less I am very happy with my improvement in reading music and playing technique and I reckognize that Jeff's presentation of his Etudes has contributed significantly to my improvement. The available support network on his facebook page and the Office Hours is a nice bonus.
 
[QUOTE="ErikP.Bass, Have you participated in the Office Hours with Jeff? I was curious if they were still being offered and what the format typically was.[/QUOTE]
Yeah the Office Hours facetime chats were a blast, and the few that I participated in were a powerful experience for me. I'm sure anyone would benefit from even reviewing the old ones on vimeo. It looks like they are not being offered at this time.
 
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