Jeroen Paul Thesseling?

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by Foo-O-Matic, Nov 24, 2005.

  1. Foo-O-Matic

    Foo-O-Matic

    Aug 10, 2004
    Israel
    Anybody know this guy?
    He's doing some crazy things with his basses... "72-tone equal temperament bass"...
    There are some scales mentioned on his site that I don't even know what they mean...
    There is a sample on his site:
    http://www.jeroenthesseling.com/media/jpt-aufs.mp3
    I haven't really heard anything that sounds like that...
    So can anyone give some information about him?
     
  2. Vorago

    Vorago (((o)))

    Jul 17, 2003
    Antwerp, Belgium
    I've seen his name mentioned on the Bassists of death site (that has gone offline I think), and he plays a Thumb 6 string, but that's all I know.

    I'd like to hear some additional info on the theory on his website. He seems to be working with some kind of multitone scale, but other than that :meh:
     
  3. true...i listened to the sound clip and didn't hear anything out of the ordinary, but i'd like to see his scale and 72-tone bass be explained a little more...
     
  4. emjazz

    emjazz Supporting Member

    Feb 23, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    I really like the track that you posted. His playing is wonderfull. He's gone in a very, very challenging direction. Great stuff.
     
  5. Foo-O-Matic

    Foo-O-Matic

    Aug 10, 2004
    Israel
    Yeah, I think so too. Maybe I don't know too many bassists, but that clip there sounds really unique and interesting to me.
    superbassman2000 - you said it isn't out of ordinary, so just to expand my horizons, can you recommend me any similar-sounding bassists?
     
  6. similar sounding bassist? well, i can't really do that, i just thought it sounded like a run of the mill bass solo, and almost reminded me of jaco's donna lee. When i said it wasn't out of the ordinary, i mean that with basists like reed mathis and michael manring, who are really taking bass to a different place, Jeroen's bass solo just sounded like your average bass solo...it's not bad, just not different imo

    i still wish to hear more on his thoeries on his webpage, i guess i didn't really get it...
     
  7. ircam

    ircam

    Dec 16, 2005
    the structure of the '72-tone equal temperament bass' was taken from the 96-tone guitar of julian carillo (1875-1965).

    the string tuning of the 72-tone equal temperament bass:

    c-str. +5/12th tones
    c-str. +4/12th tones
    c-str. +3/12th tones
    c-str. +2/12th tones
    c-str. +1/12th tone
    c-str.

    the fretboard of the 72-tone equal temperament bass (twelfth-tones up to fret no.18):

    ---1--- ---2--- ---3--- ---4--- ---5--- ---6---- ---7--- ---8--- ---9--- ---10--- ---11-- ---12-- ---13-- ---14-- ---15-- ---16-- ---17-- --oct--

    9/12th 13/12th 17/12th 21/12th 25/12th 29/12th 33/12th 37/12th 41/12th 45/12th 49/12th 53/12th 57/12th 61/12th 65/12th 69/12th 1/12th 5/12th
    8/12th 12/12th 16/12th 20/12th 24/12th 28/12th 32/12th 36/12th 40/12th 44/12th 48/12th 52/12th 56/12th 60/12th 64/12th 68/12th 72/12th 4/12th
    7/12th 11/12th 15/12th 19/12th 23/12th 27/12th 31/12th 35/12th 39/12th 43/12th 47/12th 51/12th 55/12th 59/12th 63/12th 67/12th 71/12th 3/12th
    6/12th 10/12th 14/12th 18/12th 22/12th 26/12th 30/12th 34/12th 38/12th 42/12th 46/12th 50/12th 54/12th 58/12th 62/12th 66/12th 70/12th 2/12th
    5/12th 9/12th 13/12th 17/12th 21/12th 25/12th 29/12th 33/12th 37/12th 41/12th 45/12th 49/12th 53/12th 57/12th 61/12th 65/12th 69/12th 1/12th
    4/12th 8/12th 12/12th 16/12th 20/12th 24/12th 28/12th 32/12th 36/12th 40/12th 44/12th 48/12th 52/12th 56/12th 60/12th 64/12th 68/12th 72/12th

    *please note that the instrument requires a very complex playing technique.
     
  8. can you explain this a little more?
    i guess i don't really understand 6/12th 7/12th 8/12th 9/12th etc...
     
  9. Vorago

    Vorago (((o)))

    Jul 17, 2003
    Antwerp, Belgium
    +1
     
  10. ircam

    ircam

    Dec 16, 2005
    -one octave consists out of 72 twelfth-tones
    -the bass is fretted in 18-tones per octave
    -the twelfth-tone string tuning creates the 72-tone equal temperament

    *the fretboard overview was wrong; it has been changed already..
     
  11. Vorago

    Vorago (((o)))

    Jul 17, 2003
    Antwerp, Belgium
    so, basicly, instead of the 12 imaginary frets on your fretless that make an octave, you "imagine" 18 frets in an octave. Correct?
     
  12. ircam

    ircam

    Dec 16, 2005
    the original '72-tone equal temperament bass' contains 40 real frets, however, playing fretless in 18-tone equal temperament is possible..

    ircam - paris
     
  13. thats interesting...
     
  14. UsherSyndrome

    UsherSyndrome

    Jul 28, 2008