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JJB Tones on Stranglers Black and White

Anyone know how Jean Jacques Burnel got his tones when playing Live around that time? I just think the bass on that album sounded awesome. I love the growl of his bass on tracks likeAll Quiet on The Eastern Front and Nice 'n Sleazy plus othes from that era.
I know JJB now uses a Shuker and Ashdown rigs but at that time I think I'm right in saying he was using a regular precision.
 
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Anyone know how Jean Jacques Burnel got his tones when playing Live around that time? I just think the bass on that album sounded awesome. I love the growl of his bass on tracks likeAll Quiet on The Eastern Front and Nice 'n Sleazy plus othes from that era.
I know JJB now uses a Shuker and Ashdown rigs but at that time I think I'm right in saying he was using a regular precision.
P Bass, Hiwatt head, Marshall 4x12 cab was his usual rig in those earlier days, but that's not to say it couldn't vary. Just look at all the YouTube archival stuff and old photos on Google. By the time I was able to see them live in a US tour circa 1981, he had moved to preamps/power amps, and a pile of multiple small TL type cabs.
 
A good chunk of the tone comes from his massive pick attack and use of roundwound strings. He sounded like JJ Burnell playing different basses in the '80s, even if the black P bass is the most iconic.

His tone was overdriven but not distorted. Really it nicely seasons the gristly, grizzly bits of a P bass tone. His first P bass was a '60s model with a rosewood neck and DIY green sunburst finish. It wasn't modded with more potent pickups or a high mass bridge. Find a bass with a '60s spec pickup, plug it into a tube head, 412 cab, and whack it hard! No need for Quarter Pounders or vivid distortion.

A few of his early bass lines were influenced by dub reggae, even if it isn't immediately obvious. Hugh Cornwell also had quite a thin, scratchy guitar tone, and the drums always sound a bit scooped on early Stranglers cuts. As such I think JJ has a unique tone because he had a lot of room to fill in the mix, and we get to hear a good chunk of his complete tone in the early tracks.

The other thing is that JJ is massively into martial arts. When I heard of this it seemed to make some of his playing and tone make even more sense. I guess his bass lines are sparring a little, and sort of muscly and punchy both in terms of tone and how they sit in the mix and align with the beat.
 
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His classical guitar training is very apparent....but his attack on the notes is very aggressive....and all with a pick
A P bass with rounds and pick get me close
I do not have a big tube amp so... a touch of sansamp BDDI and I think I get a good imitation of his sound......The intro to Have you got enough time....Oh yeah.
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Such an amazing album of songs....such a journey.....still love it and play most days
 
Every time I see them live Jean Jacques is playing through solid state amps and still gets his amazing tone
70s as stated Hiwatt tube head
80s Trace Elliot solid state gear
2000s Ashdown amps
 
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