Chord Studies for Trombone/bass/etc is a classic. I’m sure Joe wouldn’t just copy that. But I would be very interested to know how it compares. If we already have the old one, will this one add much?
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Joe Hubbard- Chord Tone Mastery Book
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It is different. The Viola book is pretty much all about approach notes, while Joe starts with polyrhythmic groupings, melodic contour with inversions, spread chords, and covers approach notes as well, but in a different fashion. Very, very much material to work on for a long time.
Got a copy, it looks great! Good reading practice, and I think I'll learn a lot from going through the exercises.
Hello!
Trying to get some information on Joe's 2 year program. I emailed his web site through the contact me link, and I have not received any response. Does any one know if this site is still active? I know this is not book related but this was the most recent thread on Joe.
Thanks,
Rick
I haven't used the contact me link, but I got his Bass Foundation course a month or so ago, and the site is definitely active.
Yeah, it's great *for me*. I know everybody has different ways of learning. Joe has his approach, and as with any teacher, you have to buy into that approach at least temporarily so you can properly absorb the lessons. He's not as hip and funny as Scott, but he is more organized and systematic. And much less wordy. He fits somewhere in that spectrum between Scott and Jeff Berlin I guess. 
With that said, it's been a great way to go back and fix holes in my knowledge that have been there for years. Joe has a very organized approach to things like learning the fingerboard, and in the 5 lessons I've done so far, my knowledge of the entire fingerboard is already much more secure. I'm also following his approach to muting and string crossing, and I'm feeling some good results with that also.
He sends out links for a new lesson each week, and the videos are short and sweet. I've been playing forever and I like to think of myself as being a somewhat advanced player. It actually feels really good to do some "easy" exercises that let me know where I am lacking, and he has systematic ways to fix the problems, that so far seem quite effective.
I'm pretty cynical about most teaching systems, and I usually abandon a new method before too long (if I pick up one or two useful pointers from a method I consider that a good result). But so far, I'm enjoying Joe's approach a lot, and it's the closest thing I've found to having a real teacher being super picky about all my little technical problems.
With that said, it's been a great way to go back and fix holes in my knowledge that have been there for years. Joe has a very organized approach to things like learning the fingerboard, and in the 5 lessons I've done so far, my knowledge of the entire fingerboard is already much more secure. I'm also following his approach to muting and string crossing, and I'm feeling some good results with that also.
He sends out links for a new lesson each week, and the videos are short and sweet. I've been playing forever and I like to think of myself as being a somewhat advanced player. It actually feels really good to do some "easy" exercises that let me know where I am lacking, and he has systematic ways to fix the problems, that so far seem quite effective.
I'm pretty cynical about most teaching systems, and I usually abandon a new method before too long (if I pick up one or two useful pointers from a method I consider that a good result). But so far, I'm enjoying Joe's approach a lot, and it's the closest thing I've found to having a real teacher being super picky about all my little technical problems.
Smeet,Yeah, it's great *for me*. I know everybody has different ways of learning. Joe has his approach, and as with any teacher, you have to buy into that approach at least temporarily so you can properly absorb the lessons. He's not as hip and funny as Scott, but he is more organized and systematic. And much less wordy. He fits somewhere in that spectrum between Scott and Jeff Berlin I guess.
With that said, it's been a great way to go back and fix holes in my knowledge that have been there for years. Joe has a very organized approach to things like learning the fingerboard, and in the 5 lessons I've done so far, my knowledge of the entire fingerboard is already much more secure. I'm also following his approach to muting and string crossing, and I'm feeling some good results with that also.
He sends out links for a new lesson each week, and the videos are short and sweet. I've been playing forever and I like to think of myself as being a somewhat advanced player. It actually feels really good to do some "easy" exercises that let me know where I am lacking, and he has systematic ways to fix the problems, that so far seem quite effective.
I'm pretty cynical about most teaching systems, and I usually abandon a new method before too long (if I pick up one or two useful pointers from a method I consider that a good result). But so far, I'm enjoying Joe's approach a lot, and it's the closest thing I've found to having a real teacher being super picky about all my little technical problems.
I really appreciate your reply...lots of great info. I have also been playing for a long time (~25years jeez), and getting back into after a long break. I really want to take the time to learn "music". I know Jeff is somewhat controversial, but I really appreciate his approach to teaching. I just ran across Joe by accident, and he seems like he is cut from the same cloth as Jeff. I have to look into to his course. Thanks again for your insights.
Rick
You could try reaching him on Facebook. Might be a better source to get through.
Like Smeet, I am on my 5th lesson of his foundation course. I've also been playing for a long time (30ish years) and this course is filling in some gaps, as well as reintroducing some things that I've forgotten along the way. I kind of took my own path and didn't prioritize some things, and that has caused me to get a little lost. In just a few lessons I have gained some of the things I needed to relearn.
I think Joe and Jeff have similar teaching methods. At least as far as their no nonsense instruction. You would be in good hands with either of them.
Like Smeet, I am on my 5th lesson of his foundation course. I've also been playing for a long time (30ish years) and this course is filling in some gaps, as well as reintroducing some things that I've forgotten along the way. I kind of took my own path and didn't prioritize some things, and that has caused me to get a little lost. In just a few lessons I have gained some of the things I needed to relearn.
I think Joe and Jeff have similar teaching methods. At least as far as their no nonsense instruction. You would be in good hands with either of them.
Is anyone from the thread still working in (or completed, if that’s even possible) this book? I’m curious as to how it’s helped them assimilate the 11 melodic concepts over the 9 different chord types. Also curious to get thoughts on the benefits of the fingering suggestions. Thanks!
This thread is probably dead (judging by the last post) but in case anyone has the Joe Hubbard book and is still on Talkbass, I have 2 questions:
1) is there audio included in any way
2) how does this book compare to the Chord tone soloing for bass book?
I've got a gift coupon to spend, and I can only spend it once
1) is there audio included in any way
2) how does this book compare to the Chord tone soloing for bass book?
I've got a gift coupon to spend, and I can only spend it once
@EddiePlaysBass I only have the Hubbard book and have only worked in it a little bit, it’s over 400 pages….no audio with the book. Its focus is on 11 melodic concepts used to navigate chord tones and extensions. I don’t own the other book but have looked into it a bit and it seems to be more focused on navigating common jazz changes.
What specifically are you after? The SBL fretboard accelerator is an INCREDIBLE course, possibly the best I’ve encountered. I believe that it is built from Gary Willis’ teachings, who Scott studied with. His Fingerboard Harmony for bass book is excellent too but is a bit more dense in that it starts right out with sevenths vs. triads in the accelerator. Depending on where you’re at or what you’re looking for that may not be an issue.
What specifically are you after? The SBL fretboard accelerator is an INCREDIBLE course, possibly the best I’ve encountered. I believe that it is built from Gary Willis’ teachings, who Scott studied with. His Fingerboard Harmony for bass book is excellent too but is a bit more dense in that it starts right out with sevenths vs. triads in the accelerator. Depending on where you’re at or what you’re looking for that may not be an issue.
This thread is probably dead (judging by the last post) but in case anyone has the Joe Hubbard book and is still on Talkbass, I have 2 questions:
1) is there audio included in any way
2) how does this book compare to the Chord tone soloing for bass book?
I've got a gift coupon to spend, and I can only spend it once
I am working my way through the chord tone mastery book slowly. As ErikP.Bass said, it is 400 pages of 11 meldoic concepts across 9 types of chords in all keys, and is really intended to get a level of fluency into your subconscious that enables you to play all inversions of these chords in multiple flavors in any key anwhere on the fretboard. It is massive in scope, but if you take it piece by piece and make it into a routine, I can see how it is beneficial for your fluency across all the main chord types. As ErikP.Bass said, there is no audio component, but honestly I have found it not really to be necessary, as each exercise is broken down into small enough chunks that it is obvious what is intended, even if one is not a strong reader.
Another book I can recommend on his site is the functional harmony book, but that is only if you really want to get into theory. It is less of an "exercise" book and more of a "here is how chords are related in various contexts" book.
Good question!
I think @ijump206 kind of answered it for me, but in a nutshell, I am looking for a means to expand my musical vocabulary.
Sometimes I will hear a lick and find uses for it in different songs, in different keys. But in recent years, I feel like I have less and less of those moments and more and more rote playing.
So from what I gather, the Hubbard book would allow me to work on my sight reading (and since the tabs are in a different section, I can reference them but won't be distracted by them) and would expand my musical vocabulary?
Perhaps a dumb question, but do any of you use backing tracks etc? Pretty sure there's plenty on YouTube etc, or I may end up just grabbing a ukulele and a metronome, and strumming some chords for a recording
Good point on the tablature, and yes it’s broken out so really 200 or so pages of material and you can choose to work with or without it. I’d say the melodic concepts will help your vocabulary development if that’s what you’re after, lots of ways to go at that.
For backing tracks I generally use iReal Pro. Very easy to program and lots of tunes, styles and setup options to work with.
I have a lot of Joe’s books (most of them actually). Very good material that will keep you busy for a long while. The Harmony book is also very good.Good question!
I think @ijump206 kind of answered it for me, but in a nutshell, I am looking for a means to expand my musical vocabulary.
Sometimes I will hear a lick and find uses for it in different songs, in different keys. But in recent years, I feel like I have less and less of those moments and more and more rote playing.
So from what I gather, the Hubbard book would allow me to work on my sight reading (and since the tabs are in a different section, I can reference them but won't be distracted by them) and would expand my musical vocabulary?
Perhaps a dumb question, but do any of you use backing tracks etc? Pretty sure there's plenty on YouTube etc, or I may end up just grabbing a ukulele and a metronome, and strumming some chords for a recording
Joe Hubbard has a really clear way of explaining things, especially when it comes to chord tones and practical application.
